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Re: WhichAmiga crashes!
« Reply #14 from previous page: April 08, 2007, 05:50:56 PM »
Yes, but either way, it is the PPC fetching the PVR, not the 68K - which was my original point ;-)
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Re: WhichAmiga crashes!
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2007, 06:08:06 PM »
Well, actually for PUP it just fetches the stored value from the library base, and with original ppc.library it's all pure m68k code.



Anyhoo, this hardly is any rocket science.
 

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Re: WhichAmiga crashes!
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2007, 06:11:19 PM »
Ah, is this why it often misreports the hardware then (PUP, I mean, it often reported my 240MHz PPC as 160MHz, despite the fact the CPU is definately a 240MHz part)?

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- unless the value in the library base is hard coded, at some point during initialisation it must be read from the physical PVR, regardless of what happens on subsequent library calls...
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Re: WhichAmiga crashes!
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2007, 06:24:16 PM »
In answer to the topic subject... They all do! :lol:

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Re: WhichAmiga crashes!
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2007, 06:24:56 PM »
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Ah, is this why it often misreports the hardware then (PUP, I mean, it often reported my 240MHz PPC as 160MHz, despite the fact the CPU is definately a 240MHz part)?

In most cases that was just applications being buggy. They assumed the PLL multiplier value was direct multiplier, instead of index to multiplier table specific to each CPU (well some CPUs share the PLL multiplier tables). For example some Doom version blasted "buggy ppc.library" for this, when in fact the app itself was broken.

But if your CPU speed appears randomly change between 240 and 160, then I have no clue.
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- unless the value in the library base is hard coded, at some point during initialisation it must be read from the physical PVR, regardless of what happens on subsequent library calls...

Sure, it's read at library init. However, your query doesn't trigger any PPC code execution... :-)
 

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Re: WhichAmiga crashes!
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2007, 01:22:24 PM »
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In answer to the topic subject... They all do! :lol:


Ain't that the damn truth! :lol:
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Re: WhichAmiga crashes!
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2007, 02:32:26 PM »
@AMIGAZ
I love your avatar, because I'm a fan of Bud Spencer and Terence Hill. :-)
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and anymore other Amigas...
 

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Re: WhichAmiga crashes!
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2007, 02:42:07 PM »
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@AMIGAZ
I love your avatar, because I'm a fan of Bud Spencer and Terence Hill. :-)


Me too, hehe

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Re: WhichAmiga crashes!
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2007, 02:47:25 PM »
@Amigaz
I too. :-)
In germany the movies are very popular. There is a nice german fansite at: http://www.budspencer.de
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