Shootings and gangs: black community leaders speak up

[CannonFodder]

Hyperspeed wrote:
I suppose 12-gauge lead pellets are an acquired taste. Myself, I prefer a good plate of macaroni cheese... or curry & chips!

As for street guns - I bet half the tribal/turf disputes are coming from aggresive rap music which turns already disillusioned fatherless teenagers into wannabe gangsters.

Rip up the ghettos and the 60s housing estates, crack down on drugs and start building dance/sports arenas.

As another personal thing - people under 18 should not be allowed the cigarette, the car or the mobile phone. One promotes dependance on a substance, one promotes laziness and machoism at too early an age and the third breeds a generation of little spies/bullies (not to mention the cancer risk from prolonged phonecalls on a microwave emitting device).

Too many times have we seen news of playground bullying with camera phones, text messages of hate etc. and such devices have no doubt lead to increased gang mentality.

The social security system needs reforming too, where are these kids getting 900 GBP for a .38?

The school rules should be ripped up too. If I was a teacher and some kid started mouthing off and acting 'da man' I'd kick his friggin' arse. These days though young kids can make accusations and the teachers are scared. We need bad-ass teachers who can also inspire kids with martial arts, engineering and money discipline.

It's the boys that are suffering in school these days. Girls are far outsripping boys academically and I believe this is caused by a system that doesn't take into account the way a male mind works. Too much emphasis on parrot-learning and not on creative thinking, adapting and physical management.

Another sensitive thing is the imbalance of ethnic groups. In Britain the asians stay together and the black people stay in their area. Too much immigration and isolationism leads to far-right fascism.

Welcome Mr Clarkson.  Do wipe your feet on the way out. ;-)

[Hyperspeed]

by iamaboringperson:
Hyperspeed, what 'microwave emitting device'? They don't emit microwaves, and you can argue all you want, but there's no evidence that they are causing cancer. (Else, why hasn't there been any correlation between mobile usage and cancer?)

Mobile phones (/cell phones) do not operate on UHF/VHF. They use 0.4W microwave energy. When a phone is switched on it will keep in touch with the mast in order to receive call information, SMS updates. When you make a phonecall a mobile phone will use 30x more power output than when you are TXT'ing.

There have been correlations made between mobile use and cancer. Trouble is the experts are fighting each other because the industry is worth so much.

In mice the constant radiation from a mobile heated up the brain and caused tumours. It made the mouse's sperm inactive too.

I recently obtained a leaflet from an Orange shop (a service provider in the UK) and it showed a diagram of radiation intensity in relation to a mast. Basically, stay away from the cone around the bottom.

Some people have been known to hear and taste microwaves, some people feel light headed in their presence and one group of majorettes all passed out after marching through the immediate 'cone' around the base of a mast. In fact whenever someone TXTs me my computer speakers beep-beep-beep even when the headphones are in and I've noticed a friend's CRT monitor flicker too.

I once read about microwave ovens and how a Swedish professor was threatened after he established facts about microwaves. These ovens deplete vitamins and damage molecules. There have been recorded incidences of hospital patients having their blood transfusion warmed from the blood bank and they end up dying. Same for babies receiving milk placed in a microwave.

Combine these interesting theories with the junk food, industrial pollution, contraceptive pills, household chemicals (washing up liquid can mess up your hormones), constant air traffic noise and the fact most kids are now wearing small magnets in their ears (24Hr iPod anyone?) then it's no wonder a load of them are jilted killers.

The biggest problem ultimately is poverty though. Has Tony Blair's 'New Labour' solved this? Do monkeys fly out of my butt?

Have University fees been imposed? Are dentists all going private? Are the '10%' getting richer? Is the UK's debt now in excess of 1-Trillion pounds? Are we the European capital of cocaine, teenage pregnancy and illiteracy?

[jkirk]

damn that post makes the lone gunman seem tame by comparison.

i bet that mouse was rigged to hold the cellphone in one spot consistantly. when was the last time you held a cell phone perfectly still for say 24/48 hrs? answer: no you haven't. you have it strapped to your waist/pocket/purse/or bag. you only use it when you recieve a phone call. under these conditions there is no risk of cancer.cancer study

now if you abuse your phone the risk increases
study 2

the fda is re-evaluating the claims atm thofda re-evaluation article

but really let's put this in perspective a microwave oven is running at anywhere fron 800 watts or higher while a cellphone is only .3-.4 watts. not even one watt!! you won't be cooking a turkey with a cellphone dude. now if there is damage from using a cellphone it would be miniscule and would take forever to get any damage significant enough to be a problem. so as long as you don't abuse the phone you are relatively safe. i say relatively since even drinking too much water can kill you. should we restrict water usage for kids?too much water bad?

[T_Bone]

X-ray wrote:
"...Can you honestly look at a gun with full knowledge of its intended purpose, knowing how many lives it has ultimately cost and regard it as something positive and worthwhile? Can you admire it as a thing of beauty when you know how ugly its purpose?..."
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Well firstly, no firearm I have owned has ever been a thing of beauty. Not because I don't think a firearm is capable of being a thing of beauty, but because they simply weren't. In fact they were/are dog ugly.  :lol:

Don't you have at least one 1911 incarnation? Talk about a handsome gun!  :knuddel:

[X-ray]

@ T-Bone

Unfortunately I had to buy cheap. I have two pistols and neither one is a thing of beauty:

1) A Baby Browning with a serial number in the 60,000s. It was manufactured sometime in the 1920s or 1930s. Bought second-hand from a little old lady.

2) A Vektor CP1.

However, I have something in the pipeline here in the UK. Not a pistol, of course, but a rifle. When I get it (if I get it) I will be sure to make a thread on it, mainly for Mel's benefit  :lol:

[mel_zoom]

"When I get it (if I get it) I will be sure to make a thread on it, mainly for Mel's benefit"

Well I hope it keeps you warm at night :-P

[Hyperspeed]

"Guns don't kill people... the government does!"

[X-ray]

"...Well I hope it keeps you warm at night..."
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Night shooting isn't my thing, toots, but I suppose 500 rounds through it during the day will warm the hands   :-P