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Re: USB AND DSL
« Reply #14 from previous page: May 17, 2003, 09:55:24 PM »
I haven't used USB to ADSL on my A2000 (nor the webserver A2000 for AmigaU) because I have ethernet cards, and in most cases, I don't know why you'd use USB instead of ethernet, ethernet is faster and in nearly every case, you'd be hard pressed to use even the 10Mbps on a base Amiga ethernet card, let alone 100mbps, because most DSL connections aren't even *1*mbps anyway.  More than enough bandwidth for your needs, to be sure.

Yes, I've seen buddies with cable modems that can download faster than I can on DSL, but so what?  If you need to run servers, then you can't, plain and simple (unless you want to be changing port#'s and have them shut you down and possibly kick you out if they catch you - yes, the cable companies aren't hacker central and probably won't, but most cable networks only work fast in one direction anyway, for downloading.

If you need USB *and* Ethernet on the same machine, just get a HIGHWAY card with its NORWAY ethernet module, and get the best of both worlds. Then you can get a cheap USB card reader and mess around with digital pics, etc. too in addition to surfing the internet with your ethernet.  The X-surf is also a great ethernet card (or a used Ariadne II if you can find one on eBay or similar) but it doesn't have USB, so if you wanted a card reader it would likely have to be IDE.

Good luck, have fun!  Note that if you are serious about surfing the internet on your A2000, a graphics card like a CGX64/3D using Picasso96 or CGX4 is probably a must, too, since surfing the internet in 16 colors and having little to no Chip RAM (most A2000's only have 1MB, after all) will shorten your Internet stay very quickly unless you are only retrieving email or newsgroups, IRC.. .

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Re: USB AND DSL
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2003, 12:25:42 AM »
Agree with you Dagon.

I have had very minimal problems (ONE duff modem) with USB ADSL on BTinternet and for me,  it works excellently.  I know at least one other person here that uses USB modems and that is Calen.

I often wonder how many people here have actually used USB modems?
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Re: USB AND DSL
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2003, 01:00:34 AM »
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Agree with you Dagon.

I have had very minimal problems (ONE duff modem) with USB ADSL on BTinternet and for me,  it works excellently.  I know at least one other person here that uses USB modems and that is Calen.

I often wonder how many people here have actually used USB modems?
One would really *hope* it works properly on the platform it's intended for. :idea:

There's no problem with the concept, nor perhaps the implementation (a good USB implementation should have no problem with the T-1 speeds most 'broadband' services cluster around).  But *without* a clear standard easily supported in that "useless OS," you'll probably be pressed to find a router that can handle them.  This is no problem if you don't mind using Windows and ICS, or OS X (if the hardware is supported under it, and at least a few specific USB modems are), but is a practical issue that hands the crown to ethernet for the moment, if you care about such things.  The real prize, of course, goes to devices that offer the option of using either standard... and maybe throw in wireless/HPNA/HomePlug and routing/NAT 'for free.'

USB certainly won't eat your children, and once the vendors all settle down and follow standards, it'll no-doubt be about as PnP under *NIX as anywhere else (though this won't help owners of legacy hardware, who'll probably still have to jump through a hoop or two)... but really guys, there's no need to 'defend' it in the face of a situation where it's already admitted not to work/unlikely to work for a few months at the best.  :-?
 

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Re: USB AND DSL
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2003, 11:09:34 AM »
Usually you can open the DSL modem to find it's just an ethernet device connected to a USB NIC.

They use USB because they spend less on tech support.
 

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Re: USB AND DSL
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2003, 11:22:28 AM »
have you tried NTL? their BB CM's support both ENET and USB. Def reccomend ENET tho
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Re: USB AND DSL
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2003, 11:57:18 AM »
I'm with NTL, you get a nice cable modem with both ports on. IIRC, most cable modems are actually designed for Ethernet but are shipped with USB adapters.

Why? Supposedly to simplify the installation process for the less technical PC users. It's a really bad compromise to make though, connecting through USB on my PIII-600 slows the whole machine down. And it takes up a useful USB port!  :-D

It's a shame they have to keep their users in the dark about this... I wonder how many people feel like they're wading through treacle trying to use their machine, not even aware they can use Ethernet.
 

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Re: USB AND DSL
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2003, 01:24:05 PM »
Quite agree! NTL Modems are well good, definatley recomend ENET over USB - usb takes up system resources whereas ENET is hardware - sure you knew that tho :-)
im quite good with cable modems, any questions just ask!
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Re: USB AND DSL
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2003, 02:35:15 PM »
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QuikSanz wrote:
Thinking about switching to dsl. Has anyone had luck using a usb connection on a beefed up A2000?
What are the options :-?

Chris


I know you are not in the UK, but check this out:

http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/commerce/command/ExecMacro/ols-suppliers.d2w/report

or (the Binatone ADLS2000 ADSL router modem)

http://www.binatonebroadband.com/


It supports both Ethernet and USB (you can use both at the same time!!) it also functions as an ADSL routher you can plug it onto your hub and it will DHCP you network for you!!!
It is fully administered via a web interface (at 192.168.1.2).

It's a really nice peice of kit and works great with my Windoze/Linux and Amiga Boxes!!


 :-D