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Offline Tomas

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Re: Sainsbury's Amiga Ready LCDTV
« Reply #44 from previous page: September 04, 2006, 07:30:16 PM »
The tv license issue here in Norway is worse...  :-(
Here you automaticly have to pay even if you do not watch tv at all and the people selling tvs, vcrs and such are forced to send your name and such to the state owned tv company. The worst part is that they now want to extend this license onto computers and cell phones because you "can" stream tv over internet or 3g phones. And do you think the internet streams are free for those who pay the licenses?? hell no... You will have to pay a subscription to be able to use it.
The analog tv signals will also be cut off soon and be replaced with dvb-t through a customized mpeg4 decoder. This means it wont be possible to recieve tv anymore without buying an additional decoder and this will cost money too. But that does not mean that we dont need to pay a tv license even if we dont own this decoder.  :crazy:

So we are forced to pay this license even if we do not own equipment capable of recieving tv signals from the nazi state owned tv channels.
It wont be easy to get the license terminated even if you sell your tv later on... They have such power that they can do whatever the hell they want.

Oh and when tvs get built in dvb-t tuners, it will still not work as they only let you use their approved decoder.
 

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Re: Sainsbury's Amiga Ready LCDTV
« Reply #45 on: September 04, 2006, 08:12:08 PM »
ad TV license - here in The Czech Banana Republic every private household (house/flat owner) who has electrical current connection has to pay for TV (100 CZK per month, approximately 3 EUR).. but you can claim a "declaration on word of honour" that you don`t own any TV device and you don`t have to pay it then..
 

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Re: Sainsbury's Amiga Ready LCDTV
« Reply #46 on: September 04, 2006, 10:42:44 PM »
CLS2086:
I haven't tried the SyncMaster with the Commodore VGA adaptor (I don't have one) but to bypass as much circuitry as possible I used it Multiscan:Productivity mode... this is a 29Khz mode that avoids the flicker fixing and scandoubling circuits and is passed straight to the monitor.

To my amazement the screen quality was exactly the same, dull and with vertical lines (when I use this mode on the CRT monitor it avoids the quality degradation of scandoubling and flicker-fixing).

15Khz modes work on the SyncMaster's VGA input in scandoubled modes but I can't say without that as I don't have the VGA adaptor. I doubt very much it would go down to 15Khz without scandoubling in 'PC Mode' - this is because it will not accept Multiscan:Productivity via the RGB Scart socket (the screen blanks out and refuses to sink).

If the SCART input won't take 29Khz then I doubt the VGA input will take 15Khz. They seem to be clearly seperating video and SVGA...

MASACREWILL:
My opinions reflect only for people with OCS/ECS/AGA... I see no reason why a Voodoo card shouldn't behave exactly like a PC when it comes to using 1280x1024... after all this is the exact resolution and frequency that the monitor needs.

PAL/NTSC seem to have overscan around their displayed area and I'm wondering if this confuses the monitor's automatic display enhancer.

Composite (CVBS) gives fairly good colour (no problems with green tint) but 15Khz RGB via SCART was not satisfactory. I usually use a 21" NEC XE²¹ but even compared to my 25" TV the display was utterly blurry and crap.

To recap - good for graphics cards, bad if you want to use the video port, be it scandoubler or SCART. Text is no better with RGB than it is with Composite (CVBS) - pretty dissapointing.

A warning therefore about spending money on highstreet LCD panels.

The Amiga community needs to do more research into better video-capable panels such as LCD and plasma.
 

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Re: Sainsbury's Amiga Ready LCDTV
« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2006, 11:28:04 AM »
@Dammy

Ok, these scientists haven't been funded by the oil companies like that other "research" was but I still think it may be good for you to read this...

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Re: Sainsbury's Amiga Ready LCDTV
« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2006, 11:47:02 AM »
I have a RLT17AP15 from RELISYS.  Its a widescreen LCD tv with vga and Scart inputs.  I use it as a monitor for my pc on the vga and for my A1200 on the scart connected to the video out on the Amiga.

Amiga picture is spot on on all pal and ntsc modes.  It will not sync with double pal or ntsc.  I run WB at PAL super hi res laced with crystal clear picture.

just thought some may be interested in an LCD that works great.

Cheers

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Re: Sainsbury's Amiga Ready LCDTV
« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2006, 12:52:01 PM »
@Doobrey
Where in the UK are you ?
I'm in the west midlands, so I get the Solihull transmitter.
get yourself to  Maplins, and get one of their set-top aerials (with booster if required). if you are using an external antenna, you could do worse than use a booster or get a new aerial.
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Re: Sainsbury's Amiga Ready LCDTV
« Reply #50 on: September 05, 2006, 01:06:36 PM »
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hmm. uncharted lives in Kent.
his side were promoted (we dont know how briefly) to the champignonship.

I'll name that side in one - Colchester. even though its in Essex.


Nooooo!

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Re: Sainsbury's Amiga Ready LCDTV
« Reply #51 on: September 06, 2006, 12:38:30 AM »
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I have a RLT17AP15 from RELISYS. Its a widescreen LCD tv with vga and Scart inputs. I use it as a monitor for my pc on the vga and for my A1200 on the scart connected to the video out on the Amiga.

Amiga picture is spot on on all pal and ntsc modes. It will not sync with double pal or ntsc. I run WB at PAL super hi res laced with crystal clear picture.

just thought some may be interested in an LCD that works great.


I've read a review or two on Amazon and the same seems to be said about this LCD panel. Unsatisfactory display characteristics similar to this SyncMaster I have.

PAL:Super-High Res Laced (1280x512) sounds feasible if the monitor does 1280x768 but surely you get flicker on it? That screenmode on the Samsung SyncMaster was completely illegible and flickery.

I'll try any LCD though as long as it has vertical and horizontal resizing to give me the freedom to move my screens about (as opposed to having them stuck off the edges of the display).

I'm so dissapointed that I couldn't get it to run flicker-free and with good quality picture on my RGB SCART cable (which I bought specially for this use). I could have sold my Scandoubler/FF then but it seems that either interlaced modes will still always flicker (contrary to what some have reported) or the SyncMaster's 5ms refresh times are too fast to disguise it.

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Re: Sainsbury's Amiga Ready LCDTV
« Reply #52 on: September 06, 2006, 02:44:31 AM »
this is exactly they they of C$%RP that casued the USA to rebel agains the british government..... too bad thats the only thing we got right since then....

 

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Re: Sainsbury's Amiga Ready LCDTV
« Reply #53 on: September 11, 2006, 10:06:32 PM »
pierre: I don't follow you... what are you referring to?

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