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Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #14 from previous page: January 30, 2006, 03:35:50 PM »
Thanks for the info,

Decisions, decisions...I have OS 3.5 but just do not want to start having problems with rebooting and crashing of the system. OS 3.1 has always run smooth for me and I have never updated anything from the original install years ago.

I will just have to partition my new SCSI drive into smaller sections so I can use it with 3.1 as from what I remember 3.1 dosent see larger then about 800mb drives.
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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2006, 03:49:28 PM »
Well, if you've already got 3.5, you might as well try it. Why don't you make 2 bootable partitions - one with 3.5, one with 3.1. Then you can compare and decide for yourself (that's what I did - and decided I like 3.1). Since you have PPC, maybe 3.5 will be better for you.

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I will just have to partition my new SCSI drive into smaller sections so I can use it with 3.1 as from what I remember 3.1 dosent see larger then about 800mb drives.


No, 3.1 can use the first 4Gb with 2Gb max. per partition. If you decide you like 3.1 better, you can always use a utility to extract the 3.5 scsi.device and use it with 3.1 to be able to access partitions beyond 4Gb.
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Offline tonyvdbTopic starter

Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2006, 05:06:04 PM »
Hmmmm, I did not know you could have two different OS's installed. I think this is getting a bit more complicated then I want it to be as I do not know how to do this. I do not want to reformat my old drive as there are many files that I need to keep for when I reinstall the toaster onto the new SCSI.
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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2006, 05:34:36 PM »
It's not a problem. With your new hdd, create two bootable partitions, give them a different boot priority, and install Workbench 3.1 on one, and OS3.5 on the other.

At a time I had 4 boot partitions myself.
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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2006, 05:55:22 PM »
You dont need 3.5/3.9 to use large harddrives. A TD64/NSD-compatible controller in combination with a TD64/NSD-aware filesystem, like SFS, will work like a charm under 3.1.


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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2006, 06:10:02 PM »
Stick with 3.1 if it runs alright for you, i only installed 3.9 because it was free. 3.5 & 3.9 look like someone went crazy on Aminet and downloaded a load of stuff to make it look pretty and a few system files updated here and there.

The only positive thing i can say about 3.5/3.9 is, it is better to install from scratch than 3.1.
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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2006, 06:18:05 PM »
Hi,

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"i only installed 3.9 because it was free."

Lucky you, did you win it as a prize ?

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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2006, 06:19:50 PM »
Isn't having two seperate partitions with two seperate Workbench revisions a little complicated? I mean if you have another partition with your Wordworth or another with your emulators... what OS partition do they look into for C: Libs: MUI: etc.?

They'd be looking in SYS: and could be loading the wrong library or even not finding it at all!

Also, I could never work out why my A1200 was shipped with 2x 3.0 ROMs and a CD32 of the same era was shipped with 1x 3.1 ROM.

Maybe Leirbag28/CD32Freak could shed some light...

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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2006, 06:40:59 PM »
You could do this to make two Bootable OS.  Install 3.1 on one partition, and 3.5 or 3.9 on another.  use HTToolBox to make one bootable and the other not, then if you want to boot from the other make the other one bootable and the original not!
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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2006, 06:59:04 PM »
Way to complicated. Different priorities in boot priority will enable you to just the same; just select your boot drive from in the early boot menu.
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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2006, 07:02:28 PM »
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...use HTToolBox to make one bootable and the other not, then if you want to boot from the other make the other one bootable and the original not!


That's a little tedious. I had both bootable and gave my main one higher boot priority. Then when I wanted to boot from the other, I selected it from the early startup menu.

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Isn't having two seperate partitions with two seperate Workbench revisions a little complicated? I mean if you have another partition with your Wordworth or another with your emulators... what OS partition do they look into for C: Libs: MUI: etc.?


It can get complicated, but you just have to make sure the needed files are in both partitions (SnoopDOS can be vital!). I had MUI on my Work partition, so that wasn't a problem. For paths, I used SYS: instead of the volume name so there wasn't a confusion over where it was looking for libs, etc. and so I could disable one partition without it saying insert volume xxxx:

I really didn't have many problems having 2 boot partitions. Probably my #1 problem was the annoying double boot in 3.9 which sometimes caused it to boot back in to 3.1 - causing me to have to select it twice in the early startup menu.
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Re: stay with OS 3.1 or update to 3.5?
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2006, 08:09:42 PM »
Wouldn't it be better all round to get a hot swap caddy for the 5.25" drive bay?

Another thought would be this - how many PC users do you think spend most of their time working on AmigaOS emulated through WinUAE?

I've heard also that you can run UAE on a Sony PSP handheld - if so has anyone here got info? There's something odd on eBay right now:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PSP-Value-Pack-1-Giga-ProDuo-Amiga-C64-Spiele-Games_W0QQitemZ8756716816QQcategoryZ100824QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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