Bernoulli 230 - howto use it?

[Chain]

Is there any way to use this old box for archiving system in my a2000 ? (oktagon 2008 inside, wb 2.1)
Seems to be working, i can see it on scsi bus, but i dont have any clue how it lools mountlist for this 230MB media.

and just another question:
Is there any recommended tape (ie QIC, DDS) archiving device for those old scsi?
Capacity around 4/8gig is too much coz i have only 1gig drive inside my beloved miggy

thans for all sugestions

[MskoDestny]

Bernoulli drives are awesome. The most reliable removable media I've ever come across. Didn't realize they made a 230MB version. The biggest I've seen is 150MB.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure you can treat it like a normal hard drive. No special mount lists required.

[Chain]

http://www.recycledgoods.com/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=9875&SubCategoryID=229&CategoryID=1&CategoryName=&SubCategoryName=&Selection=72&HDSelection=0
Thats exactly my piece :-)

Technical Specifications.

Drive Performance:
Data Transfer Rate: up to 20 Mbits/sec
Disk to Buffer: up to 13.33 Mbits/sec
Effective Access Time: 18 ms
Drive Reliability
Mean Time Between Failure: 75,000 hours

[Chain]

Hdtoolbox says Write error 29! ((

[Amiga4k]

Taken from a manual that I have:
The Bernoulli drives use 256K blocks instead of 512k. When formatting, set 256k blocks "ON" from the Partitions Tool window. I have the DataFlyer SX4000 that specifically handles these drives.

I have used the A3070 tape drive (150MB) in the past. The software I used was called Ami-Back by Intelligent Designs. It supports SCSI tape drives or DAT drives. ;-)

[Amiga4k]

   What really bothers me is the idea of the Bernoulli drive at this LATE date. The Bernoulli drives (by Iomega) are discontinued, and the data carts are also a discontinued product. Your quest was for backup is commendable, but there are less costly solutions that produce better results.
   I admire Chain. He is trying to keep his Amiga working, protected, and data secure. I have sold him Amiga items.
When all is said and done, it is still easier to utilize an external SCSI hard drive.  :-(

[Floid]

3.5" magneto-optical drives (Fujitsu DynaMO, Olympus and Pinnacle somethingorothers) are pretty rugged, dirt cheap in surplus these days, and there's a fair bit of documentation out there for using them with the Amiga.  (The Bernoulli should actually work the same way.)  Media isn't the cheapest or easiest to find and they're nearly as slow as floppies, but at least there are ISO standards for it, and couple pieces off eBay should be enough to back up quite a few Amiga files.

In this day and age, you might want to not pass go with the tapes and such, and go straight to cold-swapped IDE drives or the USB enclosure route (or, for 1GB, CompactFlash or USB Flash sticks).  It's hard to beat the economics of it in the general PC space (200GB drives going for $50 after rebate, "indestructible" 1GB Flash sticks falling to simialr prices), and the durability and interoperability are pretty good.

Heck, you can probably get a box of 'small' (4GB?) SCSI drives for the same price as a box of Bernoulli carts.

[MskoDestny]

Bernoulli drives and disks are awesome. Easily the most reliable media I've ever used. I have never seen a Bernoulli disk or drive fail even after being kept in a damp musky basement for years. They're also a lot faster than the old MO drives.

If you already have the carts it's a great backup media (assuming you can deal with the relatively low capacities).

Flash drives are difficult to destroy through physical abuse, but I've heard that they're not incredibly reliable overall. Swapped backup hard drives aren't a bad solution (although a pain unless you use hotswapable externals i.e. USB and firwire), but I wouldn't trust old SCSI hard drives for backup purposes.