AmigaOne + MacOnLinux anyone?

[sexton]

Hi, I was looking at MacOnLinux and it seems very appealing. Does it really work so well, to the point of being able to use an AmigaOne as a normal OEM Apple? A motherboard that runs Photoshop, Internet Explorer & Saffari besides AmigaOS 4.0 is not bad at all.

Something else: being used to speed of my 7Mhz Amiga 500, the G3 AmigaOne is already too fast, isn't it? Will I really notice any speed improvements spending almost x2 for just a few more Mhz with the G4?. If the G3 can go as fast as my x86 Duron I may say that it's fast enough.

[odin]

sexton wrote:

Something else: being used to speed of my 7Mhz Amiga 500, the G3 AmigaOne is already too fast, isn't it? Will I really notice any speed improvements spending almost x2 for just a few more Mhz with the G4?. If the G3 can go as fast as my x86 Duron I may say that it's fast enough.

No one can tell really, OS4 hasn't been released....

[cecilia]

a MAC on an AmigaOne is fine with me. but I'd use GIMP rather than photoshop, and Opera rather than exploder.
 :-D

frankly, i'd rather use an amiga, but a MAC is ok.
linux is also ok. it's fun, (i've been playing)

[Kay]

[gnarly]

I'd quite like to see a version of XandrosLinux for PowerPC - thats got quite a nice front end on it.

Oh, and The Gimp and Opera6 are out for the Mac aswell, although it might never see the lovely Opera7 :-(

MacOnLinux would be cool indeed. I'd like to play around with MacOS X, but don't care to buy yet another computer, as when I get my AmogaOne that will be machine number 4 in my bedroom already...

But what would be better would be a port of MOL to AmigaOS/AmigaOne, and even better than that some sort of API layer sortof like Linux has Wine to run Windows apps pseudo-natively. A MacOS Wine-alike for AmigaOS PPC would be very cool... Sure, that could impact on Amiga developers trying to compete with us then able to run Mac equivalent software, but at the same time we don't have many developers and this could give us a wider variety of software to choose from.

[m3x]

AmigaOne + MacOnLinux?

HERE, at the end of the page!

Ciao

Massimiliano Tretene, S o f t 3

[sexton]

Thanks for your comments guys. I guess that I'll need to talk about the AmigaOne G3-SE soon with my wife and I'll be in trouble trying to explain that this time YES THERE WILL BE THE NEW AMIGA. Since I met her she complains I that I always say "the next year the new Amiga will be released" (I keep saying that since 1997).

[MarkTime]

@m3x

I'm sure what you meant to say is that Mac OS cannot legally run on an AmigaOne and soft3 is taking a firm stand against piracy.

Now, while MOL runs on AmigaONE, and Mac OS (9 and X) technically run...hopefully everyone understands this will be limited to 2d stuff w/o full acceleration...especially don't expect and 3d accelerated games to work.

[Kay]

> I'm sure what you meant to say is that Mac OS cannot legally run on an AmigaOne and soft3 is
> taking a firm stand against piracy.

How would using my legally purchased copy of MacOS 9 on my legally purchased AmigaOne be piracy? :-o

Kay

[MarkTime]

You did not buy Mac OS 9, you purchased a limited license.

The license specifically prohibits Mac OS 9 from being used in certain ways....for example on two machines at the same time...and more interesting, it prohibits it from running on nonApple hardware.

There are a few countries in the world where piracy is legal, but it was decided a while back, that on amiga.org that as an american website, american law would be the reference point...anyway it hardly matters its the same in europe....

long story short, to answer your question, its not legal to run mac os on non-apple hardware...90% of the time this isn't a problem, because Linux PPC and MOL run on apple hardware 90% of the time...but for AmigaONE/pegasos, you are left out cold.

[MarkTime]

From Mac on Linux :
Q: Does MOL run on non-Apple hardware?
A: It does.  MOL runs for instance on the Pegasos board, the Teron board, and the AmigaOne hardware... However, teh EULA of the Mac OS prohibits its usage on non-Apple hardware...

And my own comments:

AOS4 can technically be made to run on any Teron board and probably the pegasos, but we all understand that as piracy, so why do the AmigaONE vendors not understand the wrongness of pirating Mac OS 9 or X.

I don't blame the end user, but the soft3 rep. posting a link to his piracy page?   Before you flame me, I looked at it...Mac OS 9 running on an AmigaONE at the bottom of the page, just as he claimed.

[m3x]

I don't blame the end user, but the soft3 rep. posting a link to his piracy page?

Just to clear things up:

Soft3 is responsable only of the web design, not of the site contents, which belong to the sourceforge project manager.

However I understand MarkTime remarks and I`ll discuss about the problem with the project manager.

It was not my intention to suggest to use pirated software, I was only pointing out that it's technically possible.

Ciao

Massimiliano Tretene, S o f t 3

[MarkTime]

When running Linux on Mac hardware, I understand the appeal of this program.  It enables the user to run the native OS (Mac OS 9 or X) inside the linux environment.

The appeal for an Amigan is obvious...if it could allow someone to run the AmigaOne native OS (AOS4) in a box inside their linux environment.

But I haven't heard anyone say they believe that will be possible....anyone???

I'm asking... but it seems like Amiga, Inc. has every intention of making sure this program doesn't work.
If I am wrong, I hope someone corrects me....its the purpose of these discussion boards, after all...to exchange Ideas...and my idea is Amiga Inc, wants to somehow promote this program (for pirating Mac OS X)...while making sure it does NOT work for its natural purpose, to allow the native os (in this case OS 4)...to run inside of the linux environment.

thoughts?