Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: problem... 2 amigas and no OS disks...  (Read 1943 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline keropiTopic starter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2004
  • Posts: 2466
    • Show only replies by keropi
problem... 2 amigas and no OS disks...
« on: September 21, 2004, 11:46:20 AM »
Well, I just bought 2 amigas on ebay (a 600HD and a 1200/68030@28/with IDE connectors for "normal" pc drives) The problem is, that there are no WB or any other disks except for some games... how can I install WB on the hd's of those 2 amigas? If I connect a cdrom to the a1200 and have the OS3.9 cd, it will boot and install???? (just like windows or linux?)

here are the auctions of what I bought (I am the same buyer, never mind the different usernames)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5121920925&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5122545424&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

and this monitor: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8130340649&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

and this tosec: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8131545960&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

I just start to explore amiga, a couple of years late... :)
 

Offline Nitro

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Jul 2002
  • Posts: 158
    • Show only replies by Nitro
Re: problem... 2 amigas and no OS disks...
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2004, 12:06:28 PM »
When my Workbench disk became broke, and I needed to install a harddrive for my A2000. I put my HD in a pc and used WinUAE.  I was able to format the drive and restore my workbench. Then I put it back in the Amiga, and formated new disk, and made a backup of workbench on the disk.
Pegasos-II G3/600MHz MorphOS2.4
Efika MorphOS 2.4
SAM440ep 600Mhz AmigaOS 4.1
AMIGA1200DBOX,BLIZZARDPPC40/175,64MB,Mediator1200SX,VOODOO3,SB128, SpiderUSB, 3.9 & OS4
AmigaCD32
 

Offline keropiTopic starter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2004
  • Posts: 2466
    • Show only replies by keropi
Re: problem... 2 amigas and no OS disks...
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2004, 12:30:47 PM »
So if I do the wb install with winUAE it can be used 100% on a real amiga? and what about the os3.9 cdrom?
 

Offline orange

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2003
  • Posts: 2799
  • Country: 00
    • Show only replies by orange
Re: problem... 2 amigas and no OS disks...
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2004, 12:42:49 PM »
You should be very carefull about putting HDD in PC. I've heard that Windows overwrites RGDB.

Maybe the simplest solution to problems of getting OS disks would be having two FDDs in a PC. There is a program that can read Amiga floppys in such config, so there should be a way for writing them, right?

“Giving up is always an option, but not always a failure.”
 

Offline Desverger

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Aug 2004
  • Posts: 67
    • Show only replies by Desverger
Re: problem... 2 amigas and no OS disks...
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2004, 01:22:02 PM »
This method will only work if the HD has previously been partitioned on an amiga.  WinUAE will not recognize just a blank or windows partitioned HD.  

You're going to need to get some workbench disks.  
#################################################
Amiga A1200:
Blizzard 1260 w/ SCSI
20GB Hitachi 2.5\\" IDE
ACT MV1200 Scandoubler
3com 589 pcmcia ethernet

SCSI tower:
TEAC CDROM
External floppy
#################################################
 

Offline keropiTopic starter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2004
  • Posts: 2466
    • Show only replies by keropi
Re: problem... 2 amigas and no OS disks...
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2004, 01:31:21 PM »
doesn't anyone knows if I can use a os3.9 cd on the a1200 with cdrom and HD? then I can install 3.9 and make disks for the a600... how can I do that? any special steps?
 

Offline bloodline

  • Master Sock Abuser
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2002
  • Posts: 12114
    • Show only replies by bloodline
    • http://www.troubled-mind.com
Re: problem... 2 amigas and no OS disks...
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2004, 01:46:48 PM »
Quote

Desverger wrote:
This method will only work if the HD has previously been partitioned on an amiga.  WinUAE will not recognize just a blank or windows partitioned HD.  

You're going to need to get some workbench disks.  


He could partiton and format the disk using AROS on his PC :-)

Offline Desverger

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Aug 2004
  • Posts: 67
    • Show only replies by Desverger
Re: problem... 2 amigas and no OS disks...
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2004, 02:00:45 PM »
I could not get my CD-ROM to boot.  In theory from what other members here have said it may be possible.  According to the 3.9 docs you need to have a OS installed and then you can use the CD to make a boot disk.  

I have no experience with AROS but this could work.  If your drive is already partitioned on the amiga just plug it in to the PC (sounds like you'll need a 2.5 > 3.5 adapter) and mount it in WinUAE, and then install workbench and a CD-Rom driver.  After that put the drive back in the Amiga and install 3.9 from there.  

If your drive is not partitioned, start bidding on some 3.1 disks.
#################################################
Amiga A1200:
Blizzard 1260 w/ SCSI
20GB Hitachi 2.5\\" IDE
ACT MV1200 Scandoubler
3com 589 pcmcia ethernet

SCSI tower:
TEAC CDROM
External floppy
#################################################
 

Offline keropiTopic starter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2004
  • Posts: 2466
    • Show only replies by keropi
Re: problem... 2 amigas and no OS disks...
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2004, 02:11:01 PM »
where can I download this AROS? I looked at its page, but only some videos are available....
 

Offline Desverger

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Aug 2004
  • Posts: 67
    • Show only replies by Desverger
Re: problem... 2 amigas and no OS disks...
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2004, 02:15:11 PM »
#################################################
Amiga A1200:
Blizzard 1260 w/ SCSI
20GB Hitachi 2.5\\" IDE
ACT MV1200 Scandoubler
3com 589 pcmcia ethernet

SCSI tower:
TEAC CDROM
External floppy
#################################################
 

Offline Jope

Re: problem... 2 amigas and no OS disks...
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2004, 02:34:50 PM »
Quote

orange wrote:
You should be very carefull about putting HDD in PC. I've heard that Windows overwrites RGDB.

The RDB is only in danger if you're running win9x (and why would you, 95/98/me suck hard ;-)
 

Offline CLS2086

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2003
  • Posts: 1456
    • Show only replies by CLS2086
Re: problem... 2 amigas and no OS disks...
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2004, 03:41:26 PM »
Hi !
The easiest way is to buy for your  A1200, original WB 3.1 + rom kick 3.1 at Vesalia
Then prepare (hdd install disk) HDDToolBox [good luck !], then Format (with the menu on top), then install WB, and then add "PC0: " for storage/DOS to DEVS/DOS this will allow you to transfert data on PC Formated 720 kb disk.
Then found a IDE driver such as IDEFIX or ASIMCDFs on AMInet.
Easy !!
Keep the Faith !
VG 5000/A1000/500/500+/600/2000/CDTV/1200PPC-GREX/1200PPC -ATEO-BV/4060D/CD32/Aone/Peg 1/Peg2 G4/ various funny machines too  :-) http://www.mo5.com/collection/index.php?pseudo=CLS2086
I also repair drives of our old beloved Amiga
 

Offline Dan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2002
  • Posts: 1766
    • Show only replies by Dan
Re: problem... 2 amigas and no OS disks...
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2004, 03:53:50 PM »
Apple did it right the first time, bring back the Newton!