AMIGE 4000 IDE

[bj-bill]

DOES ANYONE USE THE IDE CONTROLLER THAT IS ON THE MOTHER BOARD OF THE AMIGA-4000 FOR THEIR CD-RW DRIVE? IF NOT, WHY NOT?
IS THIS THING USELESS?

BJ

[Linchpin]

Owch my ears!

[Kraftwerk]

Get a Liteon 52x/32x/52x CDRW drive. It has great
buffer underrun protection that it will even burn
successfully on the A4000 IDE port.

So I have heard anyway... I use a powerflyer myself.

Read my comments in another thread.
 

[stefcep]

I do; no its not useless.  The speed seems to depend on your cpu and the hard drive filesystem you use.  On my bog standard A4000/040 with Commodore A3640 card (and a CV64-3D)with FFS it is frustratingly slow  and consumes mondo cpu time.  But with my Cyberstorm 68060 and using PFS its quite nippy. To be honest I don't notice any difference compared with the CyberSCSI controller.  I have a 2.0g hd IDE  and 48/16/48 ATAPI  CDRW and I can burn at X14 with no buffer under run BUT I use CD image files on the Cyberscsi Hardrive.  I have a A4000 gold flyer as well but on my older IDE hard drive it made no difference speed wise and even used more cpu cycles, which really reduced my multitasking ( this with Executive working as well).  So now I have  power flyer out and i am happy to use the IDE

[adolescent]

It works fine.  I have an older CD-RW and a Zip drive on mine and no problems.  

BTW, STOP YELLING!  :-o

[bj-bill]

Hi:
 
Sorry abt yelling.  I am new at this and don't know the ropes yet.

If you are using the amiga 4000 ide mother board controller, what software do u use to get to the cd-rw?
I thought I knew something about the amiga but I am learning, that is not true.

The software of the operating sys. does not see anything on it's ide port.

Do u use make cd, or some other software?

help!

BJ

[HotRod]

First of all what version of AOS are you using? OS 3.5+ comes with a CD-filesystem wich lets you read CD's.

HDToolBox will let you see the CD-whatever.

MakeCD can be used to burn CD's. It's a good program. Other good alternatives are Fryingpan and BurnIT 3.0. The latter are not available yet.

[Will-i-am]

I started out using IDEFix97 to make the A4000D read CDs so I could load up OS 3.9. Everything worked pretty well after that, until I started exchanging various HDs, trying to get a little more storage. Now the beast claims it sort of has a CD drive, but mostly doesn't. I guess I will have to drop back ten and punt... that is to say, take it back to the begining configuration, with the larger HD and start IDEFix again. The IDE port worked just fine when it worked.

[bj-bill]

Hi HotRod:

The OS is 3.9. One of the problems I am having is I don't have the manual for the A4000.  The guy I got this Amiga from threw it away, as he was getting rid of a lot of stuff and said he just thought he didn't need it anymore!!!

I have a new 52x24x52 CD-RW from I/OMagic. Do u think it would work?  

IF u use the A4000, do u have the manual?  I would be glad to pay u for a copy of the hard drive section of that manual.  The computer doesn't see an IDE hard drive either.  I am use to working with GVP SCSI controllers and software.  It seems that that stuff just works and I don't have any trouble.

I have downloaded MakeCD and Fryingpan, but have not authorized them yet.

Thanks for the info.

BJ

[Framiga]

Hi bj-bill

beleive me, the A4000 manual isn't useful for this problem.

There are some of the newest 52X CD-RW, that have problems with the internal IDE.

There's no way to know if not install it and test.

i.e i have a Teac CD_W540 40-12-40 with 8 MB of cache that works loke a charm (even with my previous 68040 board) but the newer Teac 48x and 52x has problems with the internal IDE (OK with PowerFlyer).

Ciao

[bj-bill]

Hi Ciao:

I have not tried to install this CD-RW yet, will try this week end.  The last time I tried to put an IDE hard drive in, the Amiga could not see it on the buss. Do u have to manually insert the information?  Ya know, like the old 2000's use to do with MFM controllers. blocks, heads, and sectors?

I guess I'll just have to keep working with this thing like I did when I set up the TCP-IP to link my Amiga to my PC and MAC. Boy was that a job!!!

thanks for the info.

BJ