Why did Amiga Inc announce this?

[mikeymike]

Suddenly everyone's a lawyer.  Yet again.  Yawn.

[chris]

@Morley

Yes, there's a bigger picture here than what we are allowed to see.

Amiga enters talks with Itec (sounds like "Eyetech", doesn't it?), a company nobody can find any information about.  This is then taken over by KMOS, a company nobody can find any references about and has very little information divulged on the press release.  Nearly a year later, Amiga Inc announce that they have sold AmigaOS to KMOS.  I'm guessing the delay here is due to the talks taking that long, if it really is faked then some digging around should prove or disprove this.  Amiga Inc now appear to have funding for the court case, so I believe KMOS does exist and is a separate entity, even if they are somehow linked to Amiga Inc.  If KMOS and AI were one and the same, this sudden influx of funding wouldn't have happened.

Hyperion and KMOS would be helping out on the court case as AmigaOS is their product and they need to prove that it is not the same as AmigaDE.  This could be made easier by different companies owning DE and OS, which may be another reason for the transfer.

It could be that they are trying to get Genesi out of the equation, and then Amiga Inc and KMOS can merge and/or the rights to AmigaOS can transfer back to Amiga Inc.

Whatever is happening here, the fact that they can afford to fight the court case shows that something good has happened, even if the sudden appearance of KMOS from out of nowhere looks a bit suspicious.

Chris

[MarkTime]

well if AmigaOS was purchased by KMOS in April of 2003...who owns it now?  I mean this announcement is almost a year late.

also, when is Amiga OS 4 going to be released, maybe its still not too late to release it back in 2001?

[takemehomegrandma]

chris wrote:

Once Genesi are out of the equation it is likely that Amiga Inc and KMOS will merge and/or the rights to AmigaOS will transfer back to Amiga Inc.

:-o  :-o  :-o

IMO, those are wild assumptions! What do you base them on?

I think it's more likely that this action has been taken to either let Amiga Inc focus on their real product (Amiga DE) or arrange a way for them to die without letting OS4 die with them (most likely IMO).

Whatever is happening here, the fact that they can afford to fight the court case shows that something good has happened, even if the sudden appearance of KMOS from out of nowhere looks a bit suspicious.

Chris

There is no case, and the only "fighting" we have seen is sending in some letters in response to another letter from Genesi. FYI, the case has been closed since almost a month now.

Although KMOS came from nowhere, it's no news that Garry Hare entered Amiga Inc a long time ago, and this might be the result of his work.

[chris]

Sorry, I was speculating out loud.  I think I'll edit that actually, it sounds a bit like I have insider knowledge (which I don't)

Chris

[Tigger]

Morley wrote:

I have looked through the court documents, and I must say, this is going to be any judge's nightmare 90% of the evidence are withdrawn from public forums...also the contract signed between A.Inc and Genesis really only covers vapor-ware. What a mess.

Is the original written contract between Thendic/Amiga made publically available?

Yes, its part of the court documents. I'd also like to point out that Bill McEwens 2nd deposition (Aug 7th) is also part of the court documents where he says that Amiga Inc owns AmigaOS 1.0-3.9.  He had early made that claim on April 30th during a deposition as part of the Bolten Case.  That according to the new documents they have filed was a lie.  Apparently AI was lying as well about their ability to carry out the contract with Thendic as well if I understand Chang's comments correctly.  The judge is liable to throw the book at McEwen over these "misrepresentations" that have been carried out.
     -Tig

[Morley]

@tigger

Yep, I found the contract. And IMHO OS4 should be ported to Pegasos ASAP, but that's another story. I also read most of the documents, including McEwens deposition. He claims to have a counterclaim against TAI for dropping support for a lot of platforms for Intent. Perhaps they have settled out of court and AInc has gotten some cash from there? Dunno, just speculations and crap from me.

Anyway, I paid for OS3.9 the other day, maybe thats their new funding :lol:

[MAD]

Hoya!

BLOODY HELL!!!!!!!!!!!

What the f*ck are they doing???!!!!!
They wanna be screwed up by the whole pegasos armada or what???!!
Time keeps on going by and they just keep on accumulating weird and nonsense-laden operations.

Bugger! Jay Miner and his team, although starting a new concept from scratch, did better and faster than all that bunch of buggers!!!! Fortunately, Hyperion is involved, otherwise I do wonder what would happen...

COME ON GUYS!!!! PEOPLE ARE TURNING TO THE PEGASOS MORE AND MORE! KICK YOUR OWN ARSES AND DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop being funky and move yer arse!!!!!!!

M A D (mad)

[T_Bone]

lorddef wrote:
well it's made it's way to the register now :

TheRegister

It's on Slashdot too.

[aardvark]

Yah, but The Register got this part wrong.

Meanwhile, it has been polishing off old Amiga games and re-issuing them for the PocketPC platform. Branded as Amiga Anywhere, the games essentially use Amiga DE. According to the company's web site, it's offering a mere 22 titles.

These games are _not_ old amiga games, they are new games, written since they brought out the SDK. I don't think the old Commodore published more than 2 or 3 games for the Amiga. The only one I can think of (and I may be wrong about that) is "A Mind Forever Voyaging", one of the first A1000 games.  Anybody know of any others or if even this one was by someone else?  The part about Amiga DE and 22 titles is correct though. :-?

[B00tDisk]

aardvark wrote:
 The only one I can think of (and I may be wrong about that) is "A Mind Forever Voyaging", one of the first A1000 games.

Nope.  You're thinking of Mindwalker.  A Mind Forever Voyaging was an Infocom text adventure released towards the end of that company's life.

[aardvark]

You're right I always get those two confused. :insane:

[T_Bone]

lempkee wrote:

last i checked kmos have put funds into amiga.inc to get past the lawsuits.

Where did you check this?

[T_Bone]

choochy wrote:

Yes the Court did make a motion, but just a motion the case wasnt closed not till the appeal date lapsed. Amiga had 30days to appeal, which they are doing now.

Where do you see that they're filing an appeal?

[Doobrey]

lempkee wrote:

last i checked kmos have put funds into amiga.inc to get past the lawsuits.

 What I can`t understand , is why now?
 In the latest court docs, Amiga Inc said they sold to Itec last year, so why didn`t they have the money from the sale to go towards legal counsel when they most needed it?
 I can`t imagine Bill McEwan selling the OS to them and saying "Ah, just pay me for it when you can afford it"
 Maybe Amiga Inc owed money to Itec, and traded the OS as part of a settlement instead of getting taken to court (again!)??

The thing that really gets my goat, is the way they`ve done it. Fleecy`s Q&A now looks like he was taking the p*ss, all that looking forward to the future crap, trying to get everyone to stay on board for a little bit longer..
 Then all we get is a short press statement on their website,and no explanation from A.Inc, just shows they couldn`t(and didn`t) really give a crap about their users/customers/followers. :pissed: :ranting: :pissed:

Anyone find it weird that KMOS haven`t said anything yet?, not even a "Hi kommunity,we`re KMOS"

 I dunno, it`s best not to think about it. There`s more to life than a white box full of chips and wires.  :roll:

[Targhan]

Nothing new here.  IIRC, when Gateway first aqcuired the Amiga, they denied it for a while.