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Offline kreciuTopic starter

Re: Amiga OS4.1 Classic on Blizzard PPC - installation freezes
« Reply #44 from previous page: November 11, 2017, 05:53:52 PM »
So, I was NOT able to make dual boot (for whatever reason, and at this point I don't care...), AOS4.1 will always boot (boot priorities were there etc. etc. etc. no joy). I will be switching CF card :).

I used FastATAII (instead of FastATAV) (II is not supported under AOS4.1 and that is GOOD at least for me :) ) + CF cards but I can actually use it to get HDD/DVD-rom and under OS3.9 FastATAII actually works as it should and AOS4.1 will actually SEE DVD-rom and boot when it is attached! :). Still without "new rom" it would not boot.

There is something specific, maybe it is my motherboard but it will not happen with OS3.9 and AOS4.1 is supper sensitive about it.

I really wish I could use my FastATA under AOS4.1 (since it is listed as "compatible"). Reading Hyperion forum, there is tons of people that have issues similar to mine.

Beside this Update 1 and Enhancer 1.3 installed :). I have to say that it works quite well (but it has this feel of "beta" version, definitely not "FINAL"), however OS3.9 feel WAY more refined, smooth, fast etc. etc. 060 + PPC really make OS3.9 fly.

There is some issue with "stutter" (especially after installing Enhancer 1.3 e.g. someone set up new clock with "high antialiasing" that literally was killing my Amiga, when it is OFF works great! - someone should TEST this before and Enhancer 1.3 Classics should be configured for... Classics. After this there is less... stutter.

Now, I need to put all this stuff back into my case...
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Re: Amiga OS4.1 Classic on Blizzard PPC - installation freezes
« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2017, 11:33:25 PM »
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060 + PPC really make OS3.9 fly.


Just to get this straight, PPC doesnt do anything on OS3.9. In best case it serves as a passthrough for a Bvision. And yes, OS3.9 is very responsive on RTG but PPC has nothing to do with that!

The only purpose for PPC under OS3.9 (apart from applications, games and demos) are archivers and datatypes.
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Re: Amiga OS4.1 Classic on Blizzard PPC - installation freezes
« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2017, 02:46:33 PM »
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Just to get this straight, PPC doesnt do anything on OS3.9. In best case it serves as a passthrough for a Bvision. And yes, OS3.9 is very responsive on RTG but PPC has nothing to do with that!

The only purpose for PPC under OS3.9 (apart from applications, games and demos) are archivers and datatypes.


Thats not completely correct, but you are close. Some of the stuff Thor has done and speedgeek has made a lot of use of it with system replacement libs. I dont use my CSPPC a lot and prefer my X5000 for all things Amiga related now since getting it, but OS4.1FE on a classic machine is nearly useless with the little RAM it supports and slow CPU. I have a 410Mhz PPC in mine and hate it, I cant imagine a stock one!
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Re: Amiga OS4.1 Classic on Blizzard PPC - installation freezes
« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2017, 06:25:40 PM »
I am very interested to know which libraries you refer to. Indeed I do not use 4.x much on my classic PPC, even though I have to admit the OS itself is not slow.
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Re: Amiga OS4.1 Classic on Blizzard PPC - installation freezes
« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2017, 08:25:40 PM »
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The only purpose for PPC under OS3.9 (apart from applications, games and demos) are archivers and datatypes.

Applications, games, demos, archivers, and datatypes.  What else is there?  :lol:
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Re: Amiga OS4.1 Classic on Blizzard PPC - installation freezes
« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2017, 10:23:26 PM »
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Applications, games, demos, archivers, and datatypes.  What else is there?  :lol:


hehe, good point.. but its just a handful of each, that is what I meant.
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Offline kreciuTopic starter

Re: Amiga OS4.1 Classic on Blizzard PPC - installation freezes
« Reply #50 on: November 12, 2017, 10:53:30 PM »
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hehe, good point.. but its just a handful of each, that is what I meant.

There is only handful application Amiga can be used in general, with main application is to make it work... This really makes it 100% different then any of my other computers :). It is like a bonus feature of Amiga software/hardware you pay for pleasure "to make it work". This did not change in 20 years for sure :).

E.g. I added G3 card into my Performa and it simply works, ATI rage? Install OpenGL and.. it works. You get some old Mac games click installer... and it works. Later you install Office 98 and it works! I can't take it any more. Nothing is crashing on me, games just run fine, no pink (or black or gray or...) screens for ever. Booooring (OK. Retro computing is fun overall!). I don't have to attach floppy drive to "hear click" (or this silence of DEATH...) to know my computer will (most likely, since you NEVER know!) boot.

BUT at the same time Blizzard PPC IS a monster. AmigaOS4.1 is really mixed bag. It is very beautiful, it really nicely expands on this what OS3.x was/is. There is PLENTY of nice things about it.
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Re: Amiga OS4.1 Classic on Blizzard PPC - installation freezes
« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2017, 12:26:57 AM »
ah, so you enjoy your computer freezes.. so why even call for help?

probably a good choice with os4 though.
 

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Re: Amiga OS4.1 Classic on Blizzard PPC - installation freezes
« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2017, 04:08:26 AM »
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ah, so you enjoy your computer freezes.. so why even call for help?

probably a good choice with os4 though.


Sarcasm my friend and as with sarcasms 50% truth/50% not. Why to call for help? To find solution :).
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Re: Amiga OS4.1 Classic on Blizzard PPC - installation freezes
« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2017, 04:53:51 AM »
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I'm trying to install AmigaOS 4.1 on my newly acquired Blizzard PPC. Startup from floppy works fine until "AmigaOS4.1 Final Edition" screen and... stays there "forever". CD ROM spins and nothing.

Amiga is recapped, Mediator jumpers are as they should be (only Radeon attached), power supply is great and floppy cable attached to motherboard, Blizzard is made in Stachu so no issues here. FastATAV. Blizzard in boot menu configured as is should be (70ns etc.).

... any ideas?
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Re: Amiga OS4.1 Classic on Blizzard PPC - installation freezes
« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2017, 07:17:49 PM »
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Try a fan on the PPC. This helped for me.


PPC is stable, very stable when it works. My main problem was FastATA and some strange issues with not detecting my hard drives. Not booting after installation can be combination of my old HW and AmigaOS4.1. Not, sure.

PS. Now after installing LAN card my system is... freezing after about 5 minutes of use.

A1222 WHERE are you ;).
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Re: Amiga OS4.1 Classic on Blizzard PPC - installation freezes
« Reply #55 on: November 14, 2017, 10:01:43 PM »
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Never, never give up on Amiga related stuff... ;). For me it is more about "making it work" (and I expressed this many times).


Just saying ;) You're not trying hard enough! :laugh1:
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Re: Amiga OS4.1 Classic on Blizzard PPC - installation freezes
« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2017, 10:28:59 AM »
Remove everything wich is not absolutety needed, then install AOS4.1fe.

When you have working installtion, add those add ons latter and make them work one by one?
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