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Offline kreciu

Re: 4000T IDE Speed
« Reply #14 from previous page: October 13, 2017, 04:22:46 PM »
I say that HDD speed will make SOME difference in Amiga, you need to consider that most of Amiga software/games are about 2Mb in size, and most of things are really, really tiny (kb).

So, if you have transfer ~1.5 Mb/s (standard speed for A1200) and then later 8Mb/s (FastATA), there is SOME noticeable difference. HOWEVER, for Amiga the biggest difference you will see is after installing CF memory instead of HDD, since access time to files will be instant.

If you change regular HDD to CF in plain A1200 and install system on both without anything, you will see that Amiga with CF boots literally INSTANTLY (no HDD start etc.). Regular HDD and CF easily "saturate" IDE port in any Amiga.

HDD speed in Amiga is not that important (if you have CF memory as HDD). You can have super nice hard drive and it will take few minutes for 030 to show you a high resolution picture :).

If you get 16.6Mb/s on regular IDE port in Amiga I will eat my shoe :).
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Offline mechy

Re: 4000T IDE Speed
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2017, 04:12:07 AM »
Quote from: QuikSanz;831612
Looking to use a CF boot drive. I have read the speed is only 2.5Mb/s, a bit slow for a boot drive! Is it a correct number?

yes that is correct speed for ide. pio2 mod can net you a bit more but requires soldering. amiga stock ide is horrible.

 The scsi makes better sense but onboard scsi was not blistering fast either. the best solution is a warpengine or phase5 accelerator with scsi,but i guess you dont want to spend a arm and leg.

acard AEC-7720U scsi to ide bridge will allow cf on the scsi,this works well,but cost is a issue of course.good for around 5MB/s or so with synchronous scsi mode enabled.

as for small programs-not all are small, drive speed does make a difference, if you deal with video files, mp3's pics,etc. they are bigger than 2MB. Some files i've messed with are easily 100MB and loading on slow ide is torture.
 

Offline QuikSanzTopic starter

Re: 4000T IDE Speed
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2017, 04:29:34 AM »
Quote from: mechy;831731
yes that is correct speed for ide. pio2 mod can net you a bit more but requires soldering. amiga stock ide is horrible.

 The scsi makes better sense but onboard scsi was not blistering fast either. the best solution is a warpengine or phase5 accelerator with scsi,but i guess you dont want to spend a arm and leg.

acard AEC-7720U scsi to ide bridge will allow cf on the scsi,this works well,but cost is a issue of course.good for around 5MB/s or so with synchronous scsi mode enabled.

as for small programs-not all are small, drive speed does make a difference, if you deal with video files, mp3's pics,etc. they are bigger than 2MB. Some files i've messed with are easily 100MB and loading on slow ide is torture.

Refer to post #7 above for hardware, Was not really in to paying for another ACard bridge.

As a new tidbit, there is an option to get a FastATA 4000MK VII kit with the CF adapter and a SATA converter but cant find it.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2017, 04:59:46 AM by QuikSanz »
 

Offline BozzerBigD

Re: 4000T IDE Speed
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2017, 10:35:12 AM »
Quote from: SnkBitten;831615
I use a CF boot drive on my A4000T.   It and an IDE DVD drive are on the motherboard IDE controller and my storage drive is on my WarpEngine.

I don't have any issues with booting off the CF card (4 GB), the OS (3.9 BB2) still loads quick enough.
IDE is fine for my Zip Drive. SCSI if you have it seems better for Amiga hard drives and CD/DVD drives.
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Offline QuikSanzTopic starter

Re: 4000T IDE Speed
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2017, 11:51:40 PM »
Made up my mind. Bought 2 Elbox CF adapters, Hope 1 works with A2000 w/V4 and a     
FastATA 4000 MK-VII for the 4000T. Should be nice.