AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 1 Now Available

[Rob]

It took me a while to locate my copy, but the registration number is on the back of the manual ("boot guide") in the DVD case.  If you don't have that, then there's an outside chance AmigaKit keep a record of the serial numbers.

You should keep such details safe for precisely this reason!

They used to record the serial number when the OS was released in card boxes but the DVD cases are shrink wrapped from the factory.

[amigakit]

We have explained this problem a few times to Hyperion over the last two years.

With a customer's permission we can open the software and record the serial number on their account before sending the package- if a customer wants to do this, please let us know in the order comments when placing the order.  This may be useful also if you want to register and download the ISO before the actual boxed product arrives in the mail.

Incidentally, we always record the Enhancer Software serial number before sending out, so you can register in AMIStore and download before receving the CD too.

[JimmiG]

Some apparently have used 1 GB successfully, though it may requires a 64bit host machine and WinUAE 64bit.

In testing based on Toni's suggestion I used two Z3 Ram cards, 512MB and 256MB, which worked successfully.

For me, when I increase Z3 RAM above 256 MB, it fails to load the network driver, video card driver (if using Picasso), sound etc. Seems like an address space conflict. As soon as I reduce the RAM below 256 MB, it works.


How can I use more without getting errors? My systems run 64-bit Windows and have 8 and 16 GB of RAM, so physical RAM shouldn't be a problem.

[SnkBitten]

For me, when I increase Z3 RAM above 256 MB, it fails to load the network driver, video card driver (if using Picasso), sound etc. Seems like an address space conflict. As soon as I reduce the RAM below 256 MB, it works.

How can I use more without getting errors? My systems run 64-bit Windows and have 8 and 16 GB of RAM, so physical RAM shouldn't be a problem.

How much ram do you have assigned to UAEGfx card?  

I'm using:
64 MB for UAEGfx
128 MB Accelerator
2 MB Chip
512 MB 1st Z3 Fastram
512 MB 2n Z3 Fastram
A2065 nic
[ATTACH]5502[/ATTACH]

[kolla]

How much ram do you have assigned to UAEGfx card?  

I'm using:
64 MB for UAEGfx
127 MB Accelerator
2 MB Chip
512 MB 1st Z3 Fastram
512 MB 2n Z3 Fastram
A2065 nic

Could you post your config?
I am curious how it looks like with 2x512MB Z3 cards

[SnkBitten]

Could you post your config?
I am curious how it looks like with 2x512MB Z2 cards

Configured as Z3, not Z2.

Drop down menu under memory, scroll to #1 Z3 Fast memory and move the slider to your desired amount.
Drop down menu under memory, scroll to #2 Z3 Fast memory and move the slider.  

I believe most are just choosing 1 block but Toni suggested using 1 512MB and 1 256MB which I initially did but then wanted to test moving it to (2) 512MB.

[HammerD]

Could you post your config?
I am curious how it looks like with 2x512MB Z2 cards

AmigaOS 4.1 FE+Update 1 will only search for Zorro 3 memory.  Zorro 2 memory maxes out at (I think) 8MB and isn't that much....

[kolla]

Sorry, that was a typo on my behalf - I meant Zorro3 of course.

The thing is, I use FS-UAE, and though it does let me set up 1G of Zorro3 RAM in the GUI, it will not launch with it, not 768MB, saying that those are unsupported sizes of "zorro_iii_memory". Hence I am curious on what the actual _config file_ (A4000-OS4.uae?) looks like. It happens every now and then that FS-UAE supports config file entries beyond what the GUI provides.

EDIT: With latest developer release, it works and I do get 1GB of FAST RAM. But P96 gets confused and RTG is gone... ok

[SnkBitten]

P96 still working for me.  I have a 1920x1080 @ 32 bit workbench, network/internet still working as well.

Config (not at  home so off memory) is

A4000T system/rom/chipset/NTSC
CyberstormPPC w/128 MB
CyberSCSI.device handling System drive, Work drive and CDrom
UAEGfx w/64 MB
A2065 Nic with "ethernet.device" as the driver
Chip ram - 2 MB
#1 Z3 Ram - 512 MB
#2 Z3 Ram - 512 MB

[nicholas]

P96 still working for me.  I have a 1920x1080 @ 32 bit workbench, network/internet still working as well.

Config (not at  home so off memory) is

A4000T system/rom/chipset/NTSC
CyberstormPPC w/128 MB
CyberSCSI.device handling System drive, Work drive and CDrom
UAEGfx w/64 MB
A2065 Nic with "ethernet.device" as the driver
Chip ram - 2 MB
#1 Z3 Ram - 512 MB
#2 Z3 Ram - 512 MB

Is there any particular reason to emulate an A2065 instead of using uaenet.device?  I'm thinking the instability of my setup state started when I enabled networking.

It's so unstable I can't even run AmiUpdate without it locking up then crashing UAE.

[SnkBitten]

Is there any particular reason to emulate an A2065 instead of using uaenet.device?  I'm thinking the instability of my setup state started when I enabled networking.

It's so unstable I can't even run AmiUpdate without it locking up then crashing UAE.

A2065 with the ethernet.device (not sure where I got that, probably one of the "Installing AOS 4.1FE in WinUAE" threads) worked before any uae devices (gfx, net, drives, etc..) could be used in emulation of 4.1, so I still use it.

[HammerD]

A2065 with the ethernet.device (not sure where I got that, probably one of the "Installing AOS 4.1FE in WinUAE" threads) worked before any uae devices (gfx, net, drives, etc..) could be used in emulation of 4.1, so I still use it.

The other thing to keep in mind is if you don't configure a PCI busboard (Mediator/GREX, etc...) in WinUAE you save address space in the Zorro III range.  That can potentially allow you to add additional Zorro III memory.

The Mediator can take 256MB or 512MB of Zorro III address space, for example, if configured.

So if you use uaegfx and a Zorro based network card (emulated) you aren't using alot of address space.

[duga]

Is this 4.1.8 or 4.1.9?

[JimmiG]

The other thing to keep in mind is if you don't configure a PCI busboard (Mediator/GREX, etc...) in WinUAE you save address space in the Zorro III range.  That can potentially allow you to add additional Zorro III memory.

The Mediator can take 256MB or 512MB of Zorro III address space, for example, if configured.

So if you use uaegfx and a Zorro based network card (emulated) you aren't using alot of address space.

Well I experimented a bit more and I think I might have gotten it stable with 512 MB of Z3 + 128 MB Accelerator.

I did indeed have a bridgeboard emulated, so I took that out. I reduced Video memory from 64 MB to 16 MB (I could probably go down to 8 MB, because that's enough to hold 1920x1080 @ 32bpp). I also switched to the uaenet.device for networking, not sure if that reduces address space usage?

I tried upping Z3 to 768 MB, but this caused the entire WinUAE to crash just as the workbench screen appeared during bootup. According to this: https://www.amigaforever.com/kb/13-111 the maximum amount of address space under AmigaOS 4.1 is 768 MB, so I'm not sure how some people manage to get it working with 1+ GB of RAM.