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Screenmoode promoter
« on: August 10, 2016, 05:15:19 PM »
Hello everyone,

I'm sure I will screw this description up, but please bear with me.

I had an A3000 and tried to rescue it but total fail so I recently bought another one and having a few OS tweak issues.

The HUGE on is mode promotion.  I have a CV64/3D installed and previously, when I started a new piece of software, I was getting a pop-up that asked me to choose the screenmode to force it to, then upon new app starts, it would just use that screen mode.  

For Mui programs, I could choose the screenmode from within MUI preferences.

My old HD bit the dust so I've been reinstalling everything and I simply cannot remember what that app was.

I went on Aminet and found modepro and it sounds like a similar tool but it doesn't work as expected and I know it's not what I used before but I cannot seem to remember of find which it was.

As you can imagine, without this, I need to keep swapping between the CV and the native amiga video.  Not awesome.

Thanks in advance.

-Alex
 

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Re: Screenmoode promoter
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2016, 05:21:35 PM »
Was it possibly newmode? It sounds similar.

http://aminet.net/package/util/cdity/NewMode_V39.lha
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Screenmoode promoter
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2016, 05:26:59 PM »
Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBU7B_6zB3s

A video all about it. ;)
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Re: Screenmoode promoter
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2016, 07:48:18 PM »
I wonder what's the problem with ModePro - it works just like what you wrote. And it has the option to force planar (16 colour screen I think) that makes for instance Sysinfo to work on RTG screen without corruption.
 

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Re: Screenmoode promoter
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2016, 09:06:29 PM »
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I wonder what's the problem with ModePro - it works just like what you wrote.

IMHO it has more features but it's un-user friendly as heck.  To each their own, I suppose.  ;)
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Re: Screenmoode promoter
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2016, 09:08:29 PM »
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I wonder what's the problem with ModePro - it works just like what you wrote.

ModePro has a couple of issues. It patches into the graphics library display info database, but sometimes not appropriately, so not all programs work as expected.
 

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Re: Screenmoode promoter
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2016, 10:40:06 PM »
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ModePro has a couple of issues. It patches into the graphics library display info database, but sometimes not appropriately, so not all programs work as expected.


I'm experiencing this now and it's annoying.  If you make a mistake in ModePro prefs once no matter what you do after it's a mess.
Newmode looks pretty straight forward thanks to Mike's vid so gonna give it go
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Re: Screenmoode promoter
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2016, 01:08:28 AM »
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ModePro has a couple of issues. It patches into the graphics library display info database, but sometimes not appropriately, so not all programs work as expected.


Hmmm....maybe I've been lucky, but as of years of happily using ModePro you have now thrown a spanner in the works! What mode promotion program would you most recommend for OS3.0/3.1?
 

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Re: Screenmoode promoter
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2016, 07:25:49 AM »
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Hmmm....maybe I've been lucky, but as of years of happily using ModePro you have now thrown a spanner in the works! What mode promotion program would you most recommend for OS3.0/3.1?

Unfortunately, I cannot really make any good recommendation. I played with ModePro for a while, and then got anoyed by its incompatibilities.

I found more or less that the programs I use fall into three categories: Those that can be configured to run on an RTG screen anyhow, so I don't need modePro, those that cannot be promoted because they go straight to the hardware (games, mostly) or don't work on RTG screens (DPaint), and those that can be promoted. The last class was, in my daily work, really the minority. (Actually, the only program that I used often enough in this class is Sonix. Yes, really, this old junk.)

In my use case, native screens do work on my monitor due to the presence of a A2320 flicker fixer, so mode promotion is only a "nice to have" - if it would work reliably. Since it didn't...
 

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Re: Screenmoode promoter
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2016, 09:49:39 AM »
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Unfortunately, I cannot really make any good recommendation. I played with ModePro for a while, and then got anoyed by its incompatibilities.

I found more or less that the programs I use fall into three categories: Those that can be configured to run on an RTG screen anyhow, so I don't need modePro, those that cannot be promoted because they go straight to the hardware (games, mostly) or don't work on RTG screens (DPaint), and those that can be promoted. The last class was, in my daily work, really the minority. (Actually, the only program that I used often enough in this class is Sonix. Yes, really, this old junk.)

In my use case, native screens do work on my monitor due to the presence of a A2320 flicker fixer, so mode promotion is only a "nice to have" - if it would work reliably. Since it didn't...


Maybe I've had no issues because I don't have RTG? Or perhaps it prefers AGA? I can honestly say it's aways been rock-solid for me on my A1200 (3.1 softkicked). I'll stick with it...If it ain't broke don't fix it!
 

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Re: Screenmoode promoter
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2016, 05:26:47 AM »
usually "mode promotion" in general in AmigaOS was used for the dblNTSC and dblPAL modes, which was captializing on AGA to do 31khz versions of 15.x khz screens.   This wasn't around pre 3.0 or pre AGA.

The others - modepro and NewMode or whatever attempted to promote wb-compliant applications to an arbitrary screenmode, be it planar or gfxcard, whatever you have defined.
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Screenmoode promoter
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2016, 05:34:00 AM »
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uThis wasn't around pre 3.0 or pre AGA

Sure they were.  ;)
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