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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Dam it ive forgot !!
« Reply #14 from previous page: March 25, 2016, 12:49:59 AM »
Quote from: utri007;806320
Install BB1 with rom update, skip rom update BB2.
Do not install BB3/4 this time, I have had just problems with them.

Ugh, I really dislike this kind of comment.  Just because *you* had problems, doesn't mean there's not thousands of people out there who've been able to install them successfully.  BB2 in particular contains many important fixes to the OS that someone who wants to run a modern (-ish) AmigaOS will need.  With that kind of attitude, might as well just say to he*&% with 3.9 altogether, and stick with 1.3.  :angryfire:

Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now.  Cheers!  :)

http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/installtips.html
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Offline jimmyboyTopic starter

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Re: Dam it ive forgot !!
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2016, 02:51:46 AM »
I have tried all kinds of different ways of setting it up. I have had it running with all the updates and mediator running, then i changed something and it all went wrong. I cant even remember how i got to that point. I forgot how much of a pain in the ass these machines can be to setup. The original guide i had was on my computer and i had a printed copy which i had in my hands just after xmas grrrr. Spending 140 hours on it googling and setting up and not getting very far. I wanted 3.9+ updates and a nice WHDload setup running either through the TV card or the voodoo. Maybe some other nice unique apps aswell. But it aint gonna happen.
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A1200/PPC 240/040 25
Power Flyer or Fast ATA using CF drive
Mediator 1200
Voodoo 3
Soundblaster
Ethernet
tv card
Gotek usb drive
Kywalda board
all in a power tower OS 3.9 AND 4.0. :-D
 

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Re: Dam it ive forgot !!
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2016, 02:59:47 AM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;806322
Ugh, I really dislike this kind of comment.  Just because *you* had problems, doesn't mean there's not thousands of people out there who've been able to install them successfully.  BB2 in particular contains many important fixes to the OS that someone who wants to run a modern (-ish) AmigaOS will need.  With that kind of attitude, might as well just say to he*&% with 3.9 altogether, and stick with 1.3.  :angryfire:

Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now.  Cheers!  :)

http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/installtips.html


No, Mike. Please enlighten me (and probably multiple others)..

I've tried installing in this order on at least the following machines:

Plain A1200 with 2.5"HD well below the max cap limit and CD-rom with IDEFix sw.
Plain A1200 with CF-adaptor. Tried with both 512MB, 2GB, 4GB CF cards and CD-rom with IDEFix sw.

Both of the above tried with both a plain 8BM exp, Blizzard 1230 MK-III@50MHz with 64MB ram and a Blizzard 1260@50MHz with 64MB ram (with proper libs ofc)

A4000D with 3.5"HD well below max cap limit and CD-rom on mobo IDE with IDEFix sw.
A4000D with 3,5"HD well below max cap limit and CD-rom on FastATA 4000 MK-VI CF/SATA with FastATA driver from Elbox

Both of the above tried with both 8MB mobo ram + 3640, and a Cyberstorm MK-II 060@50MHz with 128MB ram (with proper libs ofc)

In later tries, i got the OS3.9 Emergency Disk to work, but if that fails, i start with installing WB3.1, then either IDEFix or FastATA driver. I then restart (tried both warm/cold) and start installing OS3.9.

I then install BoingBag#1, reboots as told (tried both warm/cold), then install BoingBag#2.

Here i get the dreaded question; "Do you want to install ROM update?" and i've tried both yes and no. If i say "yes", i usually need to boot withough Startup-Sequence and "Skipromupdates" scsi.device and/or some others. I can't really remember right now, but i get it working, not knowing if i'm getting the most optimal system/updates or not.

I've tried to play with Remul(?), following Mfilos's guide and making my own softkickable KickStart with updated libs, devs and handlers, and i somehow get it working, sometimes it need a reboot or 2... or 3...

But when i install BoingBag#3 and 4... (i ofc tried that before installing BB#3 and 4, but it doesn't matter... BB#3 and 4 really gives me a lot to work with (correct and blindly change Startup-Sequence until it works. Somewhat).

I know there are as many Amiga Configurations out there as there are users, but i wish there was a common "platform" or "base" and "fail-safe" install of the BoingBags that would work on all non-expanded Amigas (except memoryexpansions ofc)

The variables could be changed later, 060CPU, Mediator, GFXcard, Spider, Soundcard, Network, FastATA, etc. These are all hardware that can be installed afterwards anyways. And the 060 libs are easy to copy over in Shell, even if you install with it inserted. Same with scsi.device.

So, i'm not saying the BoingBags suck and that the creators should pick up knitting instead, i am very thankful for ANY effort regarding Amiga, but surely there are more people having the same issues with this and a stickied guide would be awesome. :-)
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Dam it ive forgot !!
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2016, 03:10:56 AM »
Quote from: Shamron;806327
No, Mike. Please enlighten me (and probably multiple others)..

I created a video years ago.  It's in two parts on YouTube and pretty rambling.  Also it had been a while since I'd done it, and I made a few "rookie mistakes", like forgetting to check the "bootable" box on my Workbench partition.  I should probably redo it.  But here you go.  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCMw8bStvG4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufCuW--Q2nA

In any case, I promise you it works.  Look at my sig.  ;)
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
 Amiga videos and other misc. stuff at https://www.youtube.com/CompTechMike/videos
 

Offline paul1981

Re: Dam it ive forgot !!
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2016, 12:51:33 AM »
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Im not having much luck setting this all up and i dont have the time to do it so im gonna sell everything amiga i have in 1 joblot.


It's a lovely setup you have there (once installed correctly). It would be a great shame to let that lot go as a setup like yours is not easy to come by. I hope you manage to get it all configured in the end.

Perhaps start again and let us know the error / message you get and at what point so that someone is given the chance to help you. Once that error is fixed, let us know the next one and so on.

I don't have any experience with graphics cards or mediator or ppc, but plenty do and they would be happy to help you I'm sure.

You know the hardware is good... Let's get the software to the same level too!