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Offline kollaTopic starter

Re: IPv6 and Amiga
« Reply #14 from previous page: May 20, 2015, 02:43:41 PM »
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Is it in some way extremely difficult/time consuming to implement IPv6 in an Amiga (like) TCP/IP stack?


In my view, Amigoid systems should do like Haiku and others, and look at porting the KAME derived IP stack of FreeBSD or NetBSD. Is it difficult and time consuming? Yes, because very few Amiga programmers have knowledge required.
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Offline olsen

Re: IPv6 and Amiga
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2015, 04:34:04 PM »
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In my view, Amigoid systems should do like Haiku and others, and look at porting the KAME derived IP stack of FreeBSD or NetBSD. Is it difficult and time consuming? Yes, because very few Amiga programmers have knowledge required.
You are correct.

For the time being, I'm still of the opinion that the need to support IPv4 in the home network, with the gateway router providing some sort of dual stack functionality, is likely going to be a lasting solution (meaning that it will last much too long for comfort). There's just too much IPv4-only gear out there which cannot be conveniently replaced.

For the record, I recently switched ISPs, and my new contract favours IPv6. Which means that that a DS-Lite solution is in place, but it has its limitations. For example, the VPN solution which we're using at my company doesn't play nice with it. But as long as you're mainly making connections from within your home network, through the gateway router as opposed to having servers or hackers trying to connect through your gateway router into your home network, things work rather well. I suppose that the router supplied by the ISP supports some clever UPnP port forwarding mechanism, but I'm sufficiently risk-aware not to connect a home network directly to a router which I have no control over.
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: IPv6 and Amiga
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2015, 07:11:32 PM »
NAT isn't going away any time soon, if even in our lifetimes.  I wouldn't worry so much about this, the world has bigger problems, LOL.  :lol:
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Offline kollaTopic starter

Re: IPv6 and Amiga
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2015, 08:16:47 PM »
There will be NAT, but perhaps not as you know it, but in shape of DS-lite like Olsen is strugling with, and even with DS-lite (tunneling IPv4 over IPv6, NAT router at ISP), you can only reach IPv4 services. But hey, if that is good enough for you, by all means, I am sure you will have some mainstream system around to reach the rest of Internet.
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Offline Shaun

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Re: IPv6 and Amiga
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2015, 10:30:13 PM »
The translation mechanism would be nat46, which is already experimentally available on things like OpenWRT, so well within domestic-router costing.

Similar to the 6to4 that'd be running on an ipv6-only ISP so you can still reach v4 hosts (of which there will be plenty, for a long long time to come)

(don't get me wrong, my amiga, and oddly my lightbulbs, are the only things in my house not already using v6. I'd love to see it adopted in everything so I can quit thinking about it.  But historically, predicting the apocalypse gets rather awkward when it comes and passes.  Scaremongering isn't always the best way.)
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