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Re: Best Commodore 4000 Monitor?
« Reply #60 on: December 15, 2014, 11:16:56 PM »
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Will this do the trick?
 
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NTSC-PAL-to-PAL-NTSC-SECAM-Mini-Bi-directional-TV-Format-System-Converter-Box-/281526799789
 
 And would you need this?
 
 http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/maplin-230v-to-110v-300w-voltage-converter-vr05f

I honestly think his monitor would get destroyed if it was to be posted. Doesn't matter how well it's packed, as soon as some numb-nuts kicks or lobs it off the back of his lorry into the depot (it being too heavy and protesting) it is bound to be destroyed. I've seen it happen with my own eyes.
Of course, at £100 this would be a financial loss to you but also one less Commodore monitor in the world.

Personally, if I was in your position I would purchase an IndivisionAGA and buy a sizable high quality CRT monitor for local pickup from ebay.
 

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Re: Best Commodore 4000 Monitor?
« Reply #61 on: December 15, 2014, 11:23:34 PM »
Dude!

Buy one locally and save the hassle.
 

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Re: Best Commodore 4000 Monitor?
« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2014, 12:56:20 AM »
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Will this do the trick?
 
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NTSC-PAL-to-PAL-NTSC-SECAM-Mini-Bi-directional-TV-Format-System-Converter-Box-/281526799789
 

Even if the 1942 accepted the composite video that box puts out (and I don't think it will), that converter box would force you to use the A4000's much lower quality composite video output, defeating the whole point of a VGA+ quality multi-sync monitor like the 1942. You might as well use a colour TV found at the side of the road in that case.

From reading this thread, I'm gathering you don't have a lot of understanding of how the various monitors & screenmodes work for Amiga computers. That's totally fine - this place is where you can find that information out and it's entirely legitimate to ask basic questions here. But, I do recommend you take the time to listen to the advice of the people in this thread before you spend a lot of money and end up with a sub-par experience, or a broken, incompatible monitor shipped from the USA at the price of an arm and a leg.

If I were you I'd advertise locally for a used Amiga monitor, or find an old PC monitor that can multisync to Amiga screenmodes (there are lists online). That will probably end up being a much better solution - and likely cheap or free as people are casting off their old CRT monitors by the truckload.
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Re: Best Commodore 4000 Monitor?
« Reply #63 on: December 16, 2014, 01:12:05 AM »
I'll take your advice guys and search for one in the UK. :)
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Re: Best Commodore 4000 Monitor?
« Reply #64 on: December 16, 2014, 12:32:39 PM »
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I'll take your advice guys and search for one in the UK. :)


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Re: Best Commodore 4000 Monitor?
« Reply #65 on: December 16, 2014, 01:14:34 PM »
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I'll take your advice guys and search for one in the UK. :)

Also, you never said what you use your Amiga for.  If it's for games then you'll rarely, if ever, need to go above 640x240 resolution (or the PAL equivalent of the "hi-res" screenmode). In that case, a standard, common 1084 is all you'll really need. I know of only a handful of games (out of thousands) that even require anything higher (like Mechforce, maybe).

Heck, for most action games where there's no fine on-screen text to read, even a SCART connection to a good colour TV or C64 monitor would be quite enough for your needs. You are in the UK, I gather, so most TVs/monitors should have that connector.
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Re: Best Commodore 4000 Monitor?
« Reply #66 on: December 16, 2014, 01:38:03 PM »
I use my Amiga 1200 for Games ;)
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Re: Best Commodore 4000 Monitor?
« Reply #67 on: December 16, 2014, 08:31:22 PM »
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I use my Amiga 1200 for Games ;)


Oh...then very little point in getting a 1942 multisync monitor.  A 1084 will do just fine for 99% of all games and is way more common.
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Re: Best Commodore 4000 Monitor?
« Reply #68 on: December 16, 2014, 08:33:43 PM »
Ok thanks.
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Re: Best Commodore 4000 Monitor?
« Reply #69 on: December 16, 2014, 11:13:45 PM »
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I use my Amiga 1200 for Games ;)

Check around to see if there are any Toshiba TIMM monitors near where you live for sale.  It is great for Amiga games and gives you a 20" screen size to enjoy, instead of a 13" screen of the 1084S.

The TIMM does all game resolutions great and has the full functionality of a TV set as well, with built-in speakers that don't sound bad, so it should be perfect for what your needs are with your A1200.

Don't bother trying to have one shipped to you though, as the weight would make the cost of postage outrageous.
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Re: Best Commodore 4000 Monitor?
« Reply #70 on: December 17, 2014, 01:05:39 AM »
Thanks for your advice dave. Getting back to the original topic...
 
 What Monitors did the Commodore Amiga 4000T come with when it was being sold in shops. I'm guessing it was the 1960 ;)
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Re: Best Commodore 4000 Monitor?
« Reply #71 on: December 17, 2014, 01:23:13 AM »
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What Monitors did the Commodore Amiga 4000T come with when it was being sold in shops. I'm guessing it was the 1960 ;)

I don't think the C= A4000T ever made it to any shops.  It'd be a rare bird, if it had!  Google yourself up some PDF copies of old issues of Amiga World magazine, or any of the other half-dozen or so mags that existed at the time, and check out the advertisements.  The later AT A4000T (1995-1996) was usually advertised with one of the Microvitec monitors.

TL;DR.  Yes, probably the 1960 for the C= model.  ;)
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Re: Best Commodore 4000 Monitor?
« Reply #72 on: December 17, 2014, 08:55:40 PM »
This is just what you're looking for and more me thinks... :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nec-Multisync-2-CRT-Monitor-15-5kHz-Hsync-Great-for-vintage-computers-/301438260191?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_Monitors&hash=item462f1ed3df

Nec Multisync 2 CRT Monitor, 15.5kHz Hsync. Great for vintage computers



"A working NEC Multisyns2 for sale. Very hard to get one these days.  Model jc-1402hme. Has been used onto the amiga using a 9 pins cable (not  included with the monitor)"
 

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Re: Best Commodore 4000 Monitor?
« Reply #73 on: December 17, 2014, 09:29:02 PM »
Thanks for the link.
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