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Offline hishamkTopic starter

UK Amiga 1084s with SCART but no 9-pin RGB
« on: November 18, 2012, 07:45:24 AM »
Guys,

Do these UK 1084s that have SCART (and a round TTL RGB connector as well - prolly used for the 128?) work with Amigas?

More importantly, do they have the same quality as a regular 1084s with a normal 9-pin RGB connector?

Is it worth getting one of these for Aamiga usage or am I better off holding for one with a 9-pin RGB model?
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Offline danbeaver

Re: UK Amiga 1084s with SCART but no 9-pin RGB
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2012, 08:06:35 AM »
Well I have the US version, but I'm sure that the 9-pin is universal so it should work fine with a C128 as mine do. SCART is a lovely (all be it French) idea, but we NTSC folks like our French fries and dressings, not electronic standards. Go with the SCART, as I understand it analogue interfaces are not long for this world.

I'm sorry but I bet you are asking if the DB9-pin DIN is the same as the 9-pin round DIN, and yes they are
« Last Edit: November 18, 2012, 08:08:48 AM by danbeaver »
 

Offline hishamkTopic starter

Re: UK Amiga 1084s with SCART but no 9-pin RGB
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2012, 08:45:16 AM »
Quote from: danbeaver;715419


I'm sorry but I bet you are asking if the DB9-pin DIN is the same as the 9-pin round DIN, and yes they are


But I've read that the 9-pin round DIN is *digital TTL* and is only for the 128 and *not* the Amiga, the Amiga will have to be connected via SCART.

My worry is that the SCART connection is not as good as a DB9-pin analogue RGB connection.
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Offline danbeaver

Re: UK Amiga 1084s with SCART but no 9-pin RGB
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2012, 09:12:24 AM »
That is true; the C128 signal was as CGA and thus TTL.  The DB9 versions had a switch for RGB vs Analogue. There was an 8-pin Round TTL video (and a 6-pin Round RGB) version to confuse the issue. I suppose that if a SCART is included then the Amiga goes there and if there is a round 8-pin version the C128 goes there. On mine I just flip a switch on the 9-pin DB connector depending on what is connected. I have an Amiga to SCART cable for use on TVs but I've not seen one for a CBM monitor.

Which connector is better?  I think a DB9 that one can screw the cable to so it does not fall out is better.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2012, 09:15:31 AM by danbeaver »
 

Offline Jope

Re: UK Amiga 1084s with SCART but no 9-pin RGB
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2012, 09:16:30 AM »
The scart connector is just as good image quality wise, as you'd get with the 6 pin din. These old 1084s never had the 9-pin d-sub connector, it was either scart or din6.

Both connectors suck in equal amounts in terms of impedance matching and Philips build quality dictates that both types of connector wil probably have cracked solder joints by now, so time to reflow everything once you get it. :-)
 

Offline danbeaver

Re: UK Amiga 1084s with SCART but no 9-pin RGB
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2012, 09:21:17 AM »
I've got two US not UK monitors with 9-pin DB (i.e., "D" shaped) connectors.
 

Offline hishamkTopic starter

Re: UK Amiga 1084s with SCART but no 9-pin RGB
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2012, 02:27:15 PM »
Cool..thanks guys. I'll get one of 'em and enjoy some vintage Philips (lack of) quality :)
2x A1000, 2x A2000, 1x A3000, 4x A1200, 3x A500, 1x CDTV, 1x CD32, 2x Pegasos II, 1x EFIKA