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Re: APOLLO 1230-50 , 68030 Accelerator board issues.
« Reply #14 from previous page: May 11, 2010, 07:36:01 AM »
I need more power than a 450Watt ATX PSU?!?!
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Re: APOLLO 1230-50 , 68030 Accelerator board issues.
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2010, 04:02:44 PM »
Hi:
I believe he didn't read you have that PSU.
I haven't got that accelerator, but for the things I've heard, to start I would make two things:
1) Clean the board with a dry brush thoroughly. This is what @delshay told me: "PCB should be free of *All* materials it should be SUPER CLEAN no dust or fiber of hair as it does affect performance and can lead to random crashs,lock-up,data error or fail to boot altogether.
 
iv discovered this when i increased the bus speed of my card and got random errors,but found the fault to be dust/fiber built-up behind the simm ram chips legs.
 
i did not see it with the naked eye,only under a micoscope i spotted it and was very difficult to remove. after removing the dust/fiber the card work perfect with no random errors.
 
NOTE: random errors did not have much of a effect at lower bus speed when the dust/fiber was present.
 
dust/fiber can be anywhere with-in the computer and is sometimes very hard to spot, but is what i sometimes have to deal with from time to time."
 
2ยบ) Put a fan over that accelerator. As you have enough power, you can put an Y-cable from where the floppy plugs in on the board to a fan. A cold board is a happy one.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2010, 04:05:02 PM by Retrofan »
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Re: APOLLO 1230-50 , 68030 Accelerator board issues.
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2010, 04:49:32 AM »
@Retrofan: Thankx, I don't own a microscope, but I'll look into this.

Now as for over heating, presuming the issue is not dust, fiber, hair or what have you...

...would it be normal for a card to over heat and flake out within 2 minutes time? The CPU and FPU seem hot, but not hot enough to cook an egg on.

Sadly, I've not heard back from the seller about this matter yet. :/
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Re: APOLLO 1230-50 , 68030 Accelerator board issues.
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2010, 09:36:43 AM »
I read about another guy having problems whith his Apollo 1240 and it was a problem whith the right libraries. He coudn't boot it and this was he discovered:
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i seem to remember that the 1240 came with a custom 040.library on floppy....(?)
 
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Answer: "Thanks babe, that's exactly what it was! "
 
Perhaps you should look if you have the right library in your Apollo 1230-50, or at least try to reinstall it.
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Re: APOLLO 1230-50 , 68030 Accelerator board issues.
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2010, 10:40:15 AM »
Quote from: Retrofan;557938
I read about another guy having problems whith his Apollo 1240 and it was a problem whith the right libraries. He coudn't boot it and this was he discovered:
Quote:
"Hum,
i seem to remember that the 1240 came with a custom 040.library on floppy....(?)
 
"
 
Answer: "Thanks babe, that's exactly what it was! "
 
Perhaps you should look if you have the right library in your Apollo 1230-50, or at least try to reinstall it.


Never seen -030 specific libraries. 040/060 yes, 030 no
 

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Re: APOLLO 1230-50 , 68030 Accelerator board issues.
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2010, 11:24:30 AM »
Ok.
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Re: APOLLO 1230-50 , 68030 Accelerator board issues.
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2010, 11:27:30 AM »
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AFAIK Apollo didn't solder the crystals.  If the crystal is pushed all the way in the card will work, mine did for 10 years, till one day after moving my 1200, the crystal fell out ( no trapdoor cover, to cool the card).  If the crystal dislodges when powered up, it can harm the cpu.  It happened to my Apollo 1240.

Even better than that, the ROM in my Apollo 1240 was socketed, subject to mechanical pressure of the SIMM pushing against it and eventually lost several pins... I can still get it working occasionally but it is pretty wrecked.
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Re: APOLLO 1230-50 , 68030 Accelerator board issues.
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2012, 10:05:24 PM »
Hi
Did you get this board to work?
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Re: APOLLO 1230-50 , 68030 Accelerator board issues.
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2012, 10:53:13 PM »
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I need more power than a 450Watt ATX PSU?!?!

I would hope not. Unless you have some Voodoo card in there too. I think you just need to make sure it has at least 7 amp on the +5...

You may also want to check the PS with a meter and make sure the 5v is 5v and the 12v is 12v. I don't know the margin of error, but the 5v should not be off much...
 

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Re: APOLLO 1230-50 , 68030 Accelerator board issues.
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2012, 08:49:13 AM »
Thats right, keep everything as clean as possible for best performance and keep 5v at the trapdoor near as possible to 5v. Check voltage when everything is running at the same time at measure voltage drop at full load including processor speed.

Stability is key to having a nice A1200, this is what iv being working on for the past few months. Very long test runs for a minimum 24HR.

Modify Master accelerator card is progressing well, its the most stable high speed blizzard ppc card ever and will outclass some or all standard blizzard ppc card for stability.

It will for sure set a new world record for dram bandwidth on classic amiga but with lower CPU overclocking.

NOTE: overclocking is banned until mid 2013 on all my project and is just used for testing dram bandwidth for forthcoming processor change from 603e to processor X.

Bus speed

75Mhz = standard for modified Blizzard card.
83Mhz= reserved for modified Master blizzard card.
« Last Edit: October 16, 2012, 09:28:25 AM by delshay »
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