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Offline BouncingAyatollah

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Re: Red Hat 9 running with mixed results and mixed feelings.
« Reply #14 from previous page: January 23, 2004, 01:38:41 AM »
The All In Wonder is listed as a 7500 card on ATI's site so that driver should be ok? For that one (blank screen) there is a thread here:

LinuxQuestions.org

Some people had no output on a DIGITAL output but did on the analogue VGA though, I assume you're using a CRT display?

For the other problem you may need to tinker with your /etc/XF86Config file.

Log in in text mode, by either changing runlevel to 3 (text mode) and restarting (1) or switching to runmode 3 from a console directly (2).

(1)To restart in runlevel 3 log in as root and edit /etc/inittab and change the id:5:initdefault line there to id:3:initdefault, save and restart.

If you need to switch to root at any time in a console use su - and enter the root password.

(2)To change immediately start a console and type
init 3

...

Make a copy of the working (even if flickery) config file:

cd /etc/X11
cp XF86Config XF86Config.works

(you can type part of a name and hit Tab to complete)

Then you can try a couple of automatic config utitilities.

XFree86 -configure
(note case)

This tells you how to test the generated config file after it runs. If it works (you get a great big X cursor and nothing else) kill the server with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace  and copy the file to /etc/X11 with

cp /root/XF86Config.new /etc/X11/XF86Config
(assuming that's where it put the .new file, it will say)

Change the inittab entry back to 5 again if you changed it and restart. If you use vi to edit the file it starts up in command mode so DON'T PRESS ANY KEYS, any one you do may do something. Use cursor keys to move around, i puts you in insert (editing) mode, Esc exits editing mode, x in command mode deletes from the right (or usually the Delete key itself). To quit use : to get a command line at the bottom and use w to write the file. wq to write and quit, q to just quit. Some people find vi a PITA but it has always been there (like Kosh :-)) whereas nicer editors like nano and pico are not always, e.g. on Redhat . So restart and try that, if no joy go back to text mode again and try:

redhat-config-xfree86

which should bring up a graphical setup tool. When/if I had problems like this I just used one of these auto-generate config file tools and they worked.

It's interesting (?) to look through an XF86Config file to get to know where different sections are, all your resolutions, devices, modes and drivers are described in this text file.

To see whatever went wrong any time you get an error you can look at the X log file in: /var/log/XFree86..log i.e. :

cat /var/log/XFree86.0.log

This will tell you what went wrong with Error (EE) entries plus gives other info such as what config file it uses and so on.

As for Mandrake, I keep hearing people say it's great but it's the ONLY linux distro I have ever tried that failed spectacularly to install with terminal and unfixable problems with both my old motherboard AND my new one (different problem, newer version of Mandrake).

I presently use RH9 and Suse9, having tried Slackware, Knoppix, Redhat 8/9, Lycoris, two versions of Mandrake (well almost tried), Suse 8.2/9, Gentoo etc.

Suse 9 is really slick for a desktop, it seems way more responsive than others I have tried, you wouldn't know you were using X! There is a LiveEval CD you can try, you do have to go through just ONE install procedure but this just writes one file to your Windows partition.

Suse downloads

Unfortunately, they only offer a freebie as an FTP install/LiveEval CD, or you buy it. Doing the FTP install is a tale for another day :-)
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Re: Red Hat 9 running with mixed results and mixed feelings.
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2004, 02:54:28 AM »
I once tried Linux (RedHat 7.2). Hated it. It pissed me off because the stupid thing didn't recognize my NIC, which made it rather difficult to download the driver. When I did get a hold of the driver, it was a .c file. Tried compiling it, and that failed, something about missing include files. Grrr...  That's when I FDisked it to NTFS and never looked back!

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Re: Red Hat 9 running with mixed results and mixed feelings.
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2004, 02:56:33 AM »
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Also the Radeon support certainly seems sub-par.

DId you install the official radeon drivers??
The default are only usable with 2d gfx.
I really think you should have gone for Fedora or mandrake 9.2 though"i say go for mdk:P", as rh9 is getting kinda old.

Suse is supposed to be really great and userfriendly, but sadly the isos is not free for download.  :-(
 

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Re: Red Hat 9 running with mixed results and mixed feelings.
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2004, 03:18:03 AM »
Hi,

@redrumloa

I really do not like Red Hat Linux,  they were big about 2 to 3 years ago and then they fell behind, I like Mandrake the best, then I would go with SUSE (just go it about 4 months ago really haven't had time to get associated with it, but from what I see it is good).

The easiest Linux system though for loading and such is Lindows at www.lindows.com, this will load onto your system in about 7 - 10 minutes and is just about automatic, on the three systems I put it on the only place I had to interrupt was to put my password in.

Don't listen to any of those canadian guys about Linux, you have to know computers to use it.

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Re: Red Hat 9 running with mixed results and mixed feelings.
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2004, 04:23:53 AM »
Well the thing is I have used the following dists for Linux, RedHat 7.2-9.0. Caldera 2.8=3.2, TorboLinux and Debian all have some great features, but all lack one thing, simple no nonsence install that recognizes your hardware and works. But that is where Mandrake 9.2 is different it does solve your problems, I purchased the cheapest dist from Mandrake the 9.2 Discovery Disks ( 39.00 US). ALL ATI and NVidia 2D and 3D accelerated modes are supported and work and configure automaticlly, even OpenGL is set up and working perfectly. You do not even have to set up network connections they work perfectly. Mandrake is the only dist I will suggest to newbies, it does what it says it will. Mandrake even includes recovery tools on CD and Uninstall program in Mandrake Control Centre.
Not all linux dists are the same Mandrake is the closest to usable Desktop out of the box. It install sets up and configures as good as Windows. It comes with OpenOffice 1.1 for Office2000 Word Exel and Powerpoint compatability that works 100% you can even set it to only save files as .doc .xls or what ever.
You can download a free version from there web site but the graphics drivers are what you pay for so they are not included (3D OpenGL compatability that is, the 2D driver works great.
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