Yeah I have the manual, and all the parts, the thing booted up once, thing is I didn't have a TBC IV that it needs to feed signal to it. So I shelved it till I got one. Bingo got the TBC hooked everything up and the HD never was seen again. I tried several differant HD's and The CF card. It fail the startup process when the HD is not seen, least that is my best guess, some day I would like to use it as a animation station. I know I will never get a flyer set I was tracking one on ebay and last time I looked it was $1500. Thank you for all the replys any way Amiga.org is the best by far.:pint: