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HD Toolbox question
« on: March 09, 2012, 01:25:51 AM »
I have no actual documentation on HD Toolbox.  My current A3000 has a 4GB hard drive split into 2 partitions: System and Work.  Is there any way to partition the Work into Work1 and Work2 without deleting Work (and all its contents) first?  It didn't seem so when I tried -- of course, I chose the CANCEL option rather than proceeding.
 

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Re: HD Toolbox question
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2012, 01:39:22 AM »
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I have no actual documentation on HD Toolbox.  My current A3000 has a 4GB hard drive split into 2 partitions: System and Work.  Is there any way to partition the Work into Work1 and Work2 without deleting Work (and all its contents) first?  It didn't seem so when I tried -- of course, I chose the CANCEL option rather than proceeding.

with HD toolbox I'm sure that is not possible. just be happy you don't have to delete system partition. there may be some utility out there that may do it, but I'd not trust doing so without a backup anyway and then i may not trust the integrity of the data afterwards.
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Re: HD Toolbox question
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2012, 01:56:16 AM »
Resizing and changing partitions on an amiga to my knowledge will always nuke the data of the partitions. I'd be happy to be disproven though :)
 

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Re: HD Toolbox question
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2012, 02:29:56 AM »
Thanks guys.  Seems like the easiest thing to do is add another hard drive!
 

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Re: HD Toolbox question
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2012, 02:40:56 AM »
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Thanks guys.  Seems like the easiest thing to do is add another hard drive!


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Re: HD Toolbox question
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 07:59:29 AM »
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Resizing and changing partitions on an amiga to my knowledge will always nuke the data of the partitions. I'd be happy to be disproven though :)


You can do it but it's hazardous - ReOrg so the data is in the beginning of the partition; split the partition and quick format the new ones. Disksalv/undelete the new first partition and hopefully get the data back. I never tried, just bought new hard drives...
 

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Re: HD Toolbox question
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2012, 11:00:58 AM »
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You can do it but it's hazardous - ReOrg so the data is in the beginning of the partition; split the partition and quick format the new ones. Disksalv/undelete the new first partition and hopefully get the data back. I never tried, just bought new hard drives...


Pretty good trick. do a backup first :)
 

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Re: HD Toolbox question
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2012, 11:14:02 AM »
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You can do it but it's hazardous - ReOrg so the data is in the beginning of the partition; split the partition and quick format the new ones. Disksalv/undelete the new first partition and hopefully get the data back. I never tried, just bought new hard drives...

That will not work. Don't even bother trying.

FFS finds the root block by locating the middle block of the partition. If you resize the partition the rootblock cannot be found, and the filesystem will apear completely corrupt. Also, there are no guarantees that all filesystem blocks will be located at the beginning of the disk, even after ReOrg.
 

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Re: HD Toolbox question
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2012, 11:28:31 AM »
Hmm...I can smell a bounty: PartitionMagic for PFS3 :hammer:
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Re: HD Toolbox question
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2012, 12:16:30 PM »
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That will not work. Don't even bother trying.

FFS finds the root block by locating the middle block of the partition. If you resize the partition the rootblock cannot be found, and the filesystem will apear completely corrupt. Also, there are no guarantees that all filesystem blocks will be located at the beginning of the disk, even after ReOrg.


This is probably going down a blind alley but is that the same for PFS? I remember when I bought its predecessor, AFS, that it came with a program that converted FFS partitions tp AFS ones whilst keeping all of the data intact. I think it was by the author of ReOrg. I still remember watching the progress bar as I didn't have anywhere to back my data up to before doing it, gulp! Not sure it would be of any use in this situation, mind.

A partition magic type tool for the amiga would be well worth the bounty I think.

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Re: HD Toolbox question
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2012, 12:45:16 PM »
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This is probably going down a blind alley but is that the same for PFS?

It's the same indeed.
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A partition magic type tool for the amiga would be well worth the bounty I think.

Creating such tool would require it to support manipulating all filesystems that might appear on the resized partitions. This requires intimate understanding of the filesystem internal structures and how the filesystem algorithms work. Even though SFS and PFS3 are open source even adding support for these would be extremely difficult.

I find it highly unlikely anyone would be willing to take the challenge.

Of course such bounty could be created, but don't hold your breath.