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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #44 from previous page: March 06, 2012, 02:01:38 PM »
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That's why it's called BETATESTER/EarlyBird/FirstEncounters version. Onboard components does not yet have full support.


If you want to speculate about why those components still don't have support after 2+ years of development, please start another thread. This thread is for discussion on why a computer claimed to be "teh NEW Amiga!" doesn't support the time-honored Amiga tradition of tinkering.
 

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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2012, 02:33:30 PM »
this tradition is bull****!! i never tinker with any computer be it amiga or not unless i need to..
 

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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #46 on: March 06, 2012, 02:44:28 PM »
For me this tinkering-episode started later after my beloved A500 when I got a used A2000 and became worse after I got me an A1200 :)

Before that I didn't feel the need or there just wasn't any need to tinker, just plug-play memory expansions and extra disk drive. So for me the tinkering isn't any tradition or a must in Amiga-ways, but a nice option. If something works out-of-the-box no need for that. To overly sum it up: "if it's not broke, don't fix it!"
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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2012, 04:23:09 PM »
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If you want to speculate about why those components still don't have support after 2+ years of development, please start another thread. This thread is for discussion on why a computer claimed to be "teh NEW Amiga!" doesn't support the time-honored Amiga tradition of tinkering.


Of course it's not! It's about jorkany having another dig at Hyperion and OS4 as any fool can plainly see.
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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2012, 04:34:45 PM »
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Of course it's not! It's about jorkany having another dig at Hyperion and OS4 as any fool can plainly see.


Hey! I could see that! Does that mean you're calling me a fool? :P
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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2012, 05:21:01 PM »
I'm a "Groo the wanderer" fan. :D
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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2012, 05:49:44 PM »
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this tradition is bull****!! i never tinker with any computer be it amiga or not unless i need to..

Then there's no point in listening to your opinion.

Personally, i've never had a computer I didn't tinker with.

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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #51 on: March 06, 2012, 08:23:46 PM »
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@Jorkany

First Contact wasn't supposed to be complete in terms devices being supported by OS4.  It was done to get boards out to people keen to get systems out to people who were prepared to accept that not everything would be working straight away.

This isn't something that was hidden from the customer so why make such a fuss, especially when you aren't a customer.



OS4 supports multiple video cards.  I have a Radeon 9250 and an X1550 in my XE and there is no problem with running different apps on both cards at the same time.  You can do same with a classic Amiga under OS3.  A card with dual outputs can only currently display the same image

Chris is advising caution because he doesn't want inexperienced users causing warranty issues.  Most competent users will just change what they like anyway.  Changing the heatsink and fan will void the warranty but I think anything else is just advice.

I would rephrase your quote above to read "Chris is advising caution because he doesn't want Customer Support issues.", and not "Warranty" issues.

I can't believe such a big deal is being made from his comment.  Since Chris and the others at AmigaKit are very busy trying to get all of the "First Contact" AmigaOne X1000 computers assembled, tested and shipped out to the First Contact buyers, plus running the rest of the usual AmigaKit business, it is only natural for him to want as little as possible new Customer Service issues, to have to deal with.  I don't see anything strange in his comment.

There are some "First Contact" AmigaOne X1000 buyers who are first time buyers (like me) of any OS4.x system.  This fact alone creates more support issues than normal.
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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #52 on: March 06, 2012, 08:41:12 PM »
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I can't believe such a big deal is being made from his comment.  Since Chris and the others at AmigaKit are very busy trying to get all of the "First Contact" AmigaOne X1000 computers assembled, tested and shipped out to the First Contact buyers, plus running the rest of the usual AmigaKit business, it is only natural for him to want as little as possible new Customer Service issues, to have to deal with.  I don't see anything strange in his comment.

The behaviour of certain people on these forums reminds me of a few Dave Chappelle skits under the title "the haters club."

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Re: X1000 - what do you think of this
« Reply #53 on: March 07, 2012, 02:40:14 AM »
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The behaviour of certain people on these forums reminds me of a few Dave Chappelle skits under the title "the haters club."

Hans

Sorry about that Hans. I've always been very supportive of the X1000 (which should help counter the blue vs red nonsense).
But some of the posters here are very negative toward PPC based systems and NG OS' in general.

That's Amigans for you. You give some of them exactly what they want and some of the others **** on it.
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