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Re: Registering RIVA and where I can get it!
« Reply #14 from previous page: December 30, 2011, 08:30:32 PM »
Assume I did not clock it and left it at 50 Mhz, can the movie be watched 15 fps or watchable state? Does it need to be 80 Mhz in order for it to work?
 

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Re: Registering RIVA and where I can get it!
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2011, 09:10:58 PM »
It's not going to look perfect no matter what you do.  I couldn't get videos looking decent at 66Mhz.  They would jump and skip.  Some VCD cartoons were almost watchable and some black and white videos were maybe OK.  You are setting yourself up for a big expensive letdown if you're thinking you can watch movies on an 060.  You will need a PPC card to even have a chance with your A1200.  This is coming from someone who had the same "dream" as you.
 

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Re: Registering RIVA and where I can get it!
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2011, 09:29:28 PM »
If I bought a PPC card and placed it on the trap door of the Amiga 1200 would I be able to run workbench OS 3.5 on it, run Riva on it and use the power of the PPC card to watch videos or I must own OS 4.0 and run Riva on OS 4.0?
 

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Re: Registering RIVA and where I can get it!
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2011, 09:34:01 PM »
Save yourself a lot of heartache (and money) and get a PC/Apple/Blue-Ray player to watch videos. Use your Amiga for something less eye-candy but probably more productive ;)
                                                             
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Re: Registering RIVA and where I can get it!
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2011, 11:20:01 PM »
In Amikit FFMpeg and FFplay is used to play modern video format. It is free of charge and runs modern videos (sometimes light breaks in sound when loading). Perhaps a option. But I do not know how fast it runs on classic hardware.
 

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Re: Registering RIVA and where I can get it!
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2011, 11:42:00 PM »
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FFMpeg and FFplay ... But I do not know how fast it runs on classic hardware.
ffplay run alright, but it'll be a slideshow. It uses SDL which isn't helping performance-wise. Due to SDL it likely requires a graphics card.

ffmpeg is a video conversion/processing tool, not a video player.

I'd strongly recommend forgetting about video playback on classic. It just isn't worth the trouble (or money).
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Re: Registering RIVA and where I can get it!
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2011, 12:21:40 AM »
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If I bought a PPC card and placed it on the trap door of the Amiga 1200 would I be able to run workbench OS 3.5 on it, run Riva on it and use the power of the PPC card to watch videos or I must own OS 4.0 and run Riva on OS 4.0?

RiVA does not run on PPC for that you use Frogger (NG?) or MPlayer DVPlayer (From the RiVA guy) or something. I don't know. I don't have PPC classic.


Piru is absolutely right to some extent. Trying to play modern videos 24FPS on your classic (even PPC ) hardware is going to not be anything other than frustration. Modern PCs have all sorts of stuff like color conversion and hardware motion compensation built into the video hardware. The amiga has to try to do all that stuff in software and in the case of AGA, convert it to HAM8 format... on a 50mhz CPU....

I almost forgot the best part. You cant SEEK or even PAUSE. Once you hit PLAY it just goes. I just break all my videos into 100MB parts :)

On the other hand, I have converted all of the video content from Amiga Forever, other Amiga and related Commodore stuff to MPEG1 (tuned for RIVA) on my 1200 where I have a video partition for that sort of stuff. Its pretty neat watching that stuff real time in HAM8 on the 1200 even if it is a bit choppy. Stuff with bright colors like sitcoms and animations look amazingly good. If you happen to find any old Video CDs it will play those. Star Trek Generations looked good video quality wise, but the movie was disappointing.

I think the application for $15 is probably worth it.
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Re: Registering RIVA and where I can get it!
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2011, 01:19:11 AM »
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RiVA does not run on PPC for that you use Frogger (NG?) or MPlayer DVPlayer (From the RiVA guy) or something. I don't know. I don't have PPC classic.


Piru is absolutely right to some extent. Trying to play modern videos 24FPS on your classic (even PPC ) hardware is going to not be anything other than frustration. Modern PCs have all sorts of stuff like color conversion and hardware motion compensation built into the video hardware. The amiga has to try to do all that stuff in software and in the case of AGA, convert it to HAM8 format... on a 50mhz CPU....

I almost forgot the best part. You cant SEEK or even PAUSE. Once you hit PLAY it just goes. I just break all my videos into 100MB parts :)

On the other hand, I have converted all of the video content from Amiga Forever, other Amiga and related Commodore stuff to MPEG1 (tuned for RIVA) on my 1200 where I have a video partition for that sort of stuff. Its pretty neat watching that stuff real time in HAM8 on the 1200 even if it is a bit choppy. Stuff with bright colors like sitcoms and animations look amazingly good. If you happen to find any old Video CDs it will play those. Star Trek Generations looked good video quality wise, but the movie was disappointing.

I think the application for $15 is probably worth it.

All of you guys are right. There is no point at all. However, the only thing I want to use my Amiga 1200 for games, game development for it and going online on the A1200 for chatting, and other stuff.

I also want to use it to radio stream online, I heard AmiNetRadio does just that.

I want to listen to my favorite show live on the A1200 :D