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Offline motruckerTopic starter

A "new" A2000
« on: February 14, 2010, 07:12:38 PM »
Thanks to another member of amiga.org (A very generous member, I might add) I now have a working A2000. Don't get me wrong, I like my A1000. A lot! But man it's nice to be able to use a hard drive! and FFS floppies and (well the list could go on for ever). It's amazing how many disks the A1000 can't read.
I don't have it on line yet - but that will be coming. Let me get back to the A2000 - I am in heaven!
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Re: A "new" A2000
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2010, 07:17:33 PM »
Have you thought of servicing your A1k drive?
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Re: A "new" A2000
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2010, 08:04:15 PM »
The 1000 can't read newer FFS floppies because it is a Workbench/Kickstart 1.3 based machine-newer (2.0+) FFS floppies can't be read by the older system software.

However there are hardware hacks to put the kickstart in ROM on the 1000, then it could be updated to newer kickstart and then read newer floppies.  But then it wouldn't be 'pure' anymore ;-)
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Re: A "new" A2000
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2010, 08:08:52 PM »
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The 1000 can't read newer FFS floppies because it is a Workbench/Kickstart 1.3 based machine-newer (2.0+) FFS floppies can't be read by the older system software.

However there are hardware hacks to put the kickstart in ROM on the 1000, then it could be updated to newer kickstart and then read newer floppies.  But then it wouldn't be 'pure' anymore ;-)

Why not get a kick switcher?
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Offline tone007

Re: A "new" A2000
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2010, 08:26:56 PM »
...or an A2000?!

There's only so far you can push an A1000, really, before it just makes sense to work on a different machine.
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Offline motruckerTopic starter

Re: A "new" A2000
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2010, 09:15:32 PM »
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Have you thought of servicing your A1k drive?

The drive is fine - it's just a limitation of the machine.
I have now collected so many old 1.2 and 1.3 games, that won't run on newer systems that I want to keep the A1000 in its original configuration. It's a nice one - very little yellow (even the keyboard) and right now has 2.5Mb of RAM.
BUT, I am loving this A2000!! Just about have all my graphics software installed.
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Re: A "new" A2000
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2010, 10:33:57 PM »
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...or an A2000?!

There's only so far you can push an A1000, really, before it just makes sense to work on a different machine.


Lol, thanks for the laugh, Tone...  I'm at work on a Sunday and I needed a laugh...
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Re: A "new" A2000
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2010, 10:49:37 PM »
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The 1000 can't read newer FFS floppies because it is a Workbench/Kickstart 1.3 based machine-newer (2.0+) FFS floppies can't be read by the older system software.

Interesting, I hadn't thought of that.  I thought FFS was a 1.3 thing?

How big an issue is this?  
I know that there are quite a few Amiga 500 users with 1.3 out there, and I hadn't "noticed" them with problems reading newer formatted floppies.

Is it the Amiga 1000 1.3 kickstart that has problems or all 1.3 kickstarts?

Are there that many FFS floppies that this is/can be an issue?

Just wondering.

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Re: A "new" A2000
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2010, 10:56:06 PM »
1.3 did have FFS just not in ROM (and not compatible with the 2.0 FFS).

Why anyone would format FLOPPIES with FFS ?? Well thats clearly beyond me ....
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Re: A "new" A2000
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2010, 12:16:59 AM »
@Kronos

More space.
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Re: A "new" A2000
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2010, 12:20:55 AM »
Agreed. AND a very common practice. Also speeds things up a little bit. I've never had a problem reading/writing Amiga floppies between machines no matter what system they've been formatted with. 'Cept my "new" A3000. The HD floppy drive in that machine is the pickiest when it comes to high and low density disks.
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Offline motruckerTopic starter

Re: A "new" A2000
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2010, 06:11:33 AM »
The A1000 can NOT read or write FFS disks unless you add the routine to your startup sequence. So far I haven't been able to squeeze it onto 1.3 workbench disks due to using a few lib. that are needed by some newer programs. If you have a hard drive, then it's a snap - almost automatic...
You may be surprised to find out how many commercial disks are formatted in FFS!  Almost everything since 2.0 was released.
OFS disks forever?
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