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Re: Picasso IV Drivers......I'm so stupid!
« Reply #14 from previous page: June 23, 2011, 10:50:09 PM »
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If you install the Picasso96 package from Aminet it will do all the monitor stuff for you. After that you run the included Picasso tool to define your monitor's capabilities and you're all set.

@Mousehouse - please can you confirm the Picasso tool and where the installation puts it? Is it Picasso96Mode in Prefs? I can't find anything else.....

....additionally without the driver in Monitors the Picasso Debug states Picasso isn't running. I've just installed MUI because I tried to run a program called PVS and it was missing a file, I played about and still the same!
However I found this pic of the About screen from the old system not sure if it helps
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Re: Picasso IV Drivers......I'm so stupid!
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2011, 09:41:58 AM »
Will connect and boot up the old lady this weekend... if your screen goes blank after starting the monitor then probably the Picasso is sending at an unsupported frequency, you need to use the mode tool to configure the card for this.

Do you have another monitor option available? Like a small TFT used for a desktop PC? I struggled with a crappy old monitor as well, and my $90 Acer TFT worked without too much hassle.

edit:
The screenshot shows CyberGraphX installed, the menu bar shows P96. Is this of your system or something you found online?
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Re: Picasso IV Drivers......I'm so stupid!
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2011, 10:55:59 AM »
The screen shot is my A4000. But old install of 3.0
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Re: Picasso IV Drivers......I'm so stupid!
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2011, 12:47:53 PM »
Just to clarify.  The screen shot is NOT from your current setup in any way shape or form correct?  Meaning, this picture is from a completely different install of the OS and what you are running now is from a fresh install on a wiped hard drive/ partition correct?  I ask because things can get extremely odd if you try to run both CGX and P96 at the same time.

I really wish I still had my system with the Picasso IV in it because I can't for the life of me remember where the screen editor is put.  I know it is in its own folder within the core AOS folders.

Example: "PREFS" folder -> "Picasso" folder -> Picasso programs.

Wait.  You said you were looking at your screen and when you clicked on the Picasso Icon in "MONITORS" everything went black right?  Does it flicker first or does it immediately go black?

Do you have your monitor hooked up to the standard video out on the A4000 via a converter or to the Picasso pass-through/flicker fixer?  I don't want to offend you with such a simple question, but it sounds like it is working as far as immediately changing over to the other monitor.

And are there any indicator lights on the front of the monitor that blink or do otherwise when the monitor isn't getting a signal?  Some even display a message of "NO SIGNAL" or something like that.
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Re: Picasso IV Drivers......I'm so stupid!
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2011, 01:33:59 PM »
I'm never offended by simple questions, I am re-learning and really annoyed with this problem. Yes the picture is of the old setup, made by the old owner. And the monitor is connected directly to the Picasso card output. With PicassoIV in the Monitor folder you can view the Amiga loading (I have AExplorer in startup and you see that load and IDE Fixer) just before you get the Workbench desktop the monitor screen goes black and the green power indication flickers. When there is no PicassoIV in Monitors the Amiga loads as normal, but no Picasso in Screen mode, drop PicassoIV back in monitors and double click goes black. I do have a modern TFT, when just plugged in there is no picture and screen flickers black / grey lines. I would have to check what the TFT can handle.

Another thought is to plug in the old hard drive with orignal setup and see what settings are.

And this is my only spare monitor - Emprex LM-1904
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Re: Picasso IV Drivers......I'm so stupid!
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2011, 09:47:35 AM »
Right well I have done some more playing and it still doesn't work.

I put in the original owners hard drive and had a look around, it doesn't use Picasso96Mode but Picasso TNG which was different there were some different .library files that I copied over. Then I downloaded nicholas's link which gives a more upto date Picasso96....low and behold it also contains TNG!
Uninstalled Picasso96, reinstalled Picasso96, same. Then I went a got my spare CRT (Sony Trinitron Multiscan 200ES). Works perfect on old setup, same results on new setup. I'm even thinking about filming this for all to see......I am so p*^sed off with this now!
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Re: Picasso IV Drivers......I'm so stupid!
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2011, 10:13:12 PM »
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This might give something: boot via early startup without startup-sequence to workbench like written up there. Go to env:  and delete screenmode.prefs which may have a Picasso mode as default which your monitor doesn't want to show. Then execute s:startup-sequence and you get your whole system running on PAL/NTSC screen. Go to screenmode and look if there are Picasso modes besides the PAL/NTSC ones. If there aren't any, go to Devs:Monitors and double click the PicassoIV monitor file. Look at screenmode again.

Hi I am finding it hard to find Env and delete screenmode.prefs.....any ideas?
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Re: Picasso IV Drivers......I'm so stupid!
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2011, 12:42:48 AM »
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Hi I am finding it hard to find Env and delete screenmode.prefs.....any ideas?


If you are trying to delete with the "No Startup Sequence" method env: isn't assigned so you'll have to manually go to it.

In CLI, goto "sys : prefs/env-archive/sys" without quotes and remove the spaces between the colon.

Type DIR or LIST and you should see screenmode.prefs, either delete or rename it.
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Re: Picasso IV Drivers......I'm so stupid!
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2011, 10:16:49 PM »
I'll give that a go....also got this which shows the start up jobby


http://youtu.be/_1rolZrqCPI
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Re: Picasso IV Drivers......I'm so stupid!
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2011, 07:42:40 PM »
For everyone, I have fixed this problem - I don't know how to fix it for other people but it has worked for me.

I went through and copied every Picasso96 installed file from the previous owners setup and over wrote them on my new OS3.1 setup and it has worked!
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