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« on: December 16, 2003, 12:53:30 AM »
Hi Peepz

I seem to be nothing but questions recently....


Anyways, Im thinking of looking into learning to program in java

anu url's u lot could suggest to get meon  the right track..

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Re: Java
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2003, 01:01:07 AM »
I always recommend using a book to learn a new programming language. I have bad experiences trying to get good sources from the internet for learning programming languages. Most of the time I came in the middle of the "story".
 I am learning now from the book "Java for students" written by Doublas Bell/Mike Parr.
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Re: Java
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2003, 01:03:59 AM »
where did u get such book, is it for java 2.0 and would i be able to learn wll enough from boo kto program games for phones


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Re: Java
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2003, 06:52:52 AM »
What's your experience in programming?  Do you have any background in C or C++ by chance?  If you have a decent programming background you should be able to do games in a matter of one month (minus development & testing).  If you are picking up Java as a first language then you might be in for quite a ride before you can really break into game development.  After a hard core month of 12hr days studying 38 different Java books mixed in with developing via trial and error through the command line, I had a fair grasp of Java enough to write simple games.  As of late, I've done several card games, a few board games like sorry and monopoly, but nothing I could release to the public considering how crued they are.  Once you've been programming for over two or three years (in any language) you'll have a grasp for what you need to do.

If you want to program in Java for cellphone games, you should make sure to focus heavily on the latest J2ME.  One component you will want to make is your own GUI elements rather than utilizing Swing or AWT.  It's a bit more polished when you use your own style.

Based on your programming background I would be happy to recommend to you a few books as well as example java code.  Let me know when you get the chance.  I'm an SCJP so I can help answer whatever questions you may have.  Though, there are others around here who have more knowledge in Java as well as programming games.

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Re: Java
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2003, 10:26:59 AM »
Sams "in 31 days" books are always good, but tbh you couldn't go wrong with just looking at the java.sun.com tutorials, looking through the api and then using other java tutorial pages on the web to get started.

I'd say that you don't have to have a hardcore programming background to get allong with java, as it's quite simple, but of course some sort of programming experience will make the laerning process much easier.
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Re: Java
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2003, 08:47:03 AM »
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
I always recommend using a book to learn a new programming language. I have bad experiences trying to get good sources from the internet for learning programming languages. Most of the time I came in the middle of the "story".
 I am learning now from the book "Java for students" written by Doublas Bell/Mike Parr.


Ho ho, same book I used in the uni. Very good for starters.... Excellent choice....

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Re: Java
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2003, 10:43:08 AM »
If you have broadband, books really aren't needed, there are plenty of good sites on the web.

I seem to remember there being a good free downloadable book here:

http://www.mindview.net/Books

If you really want I could probably put the java slides from my first year at uni on the web for you, although they are a bit ####.
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