X1000 general questions

[WolfToTheMoon]

You and I both know when the A1X1K is released, OS4 is not going to be SMP.  Who will want to use Xena and for what purpose when they get their A1X1K out of the box?  I'm sure Hyperion has some loft dreams they want OS4 to reach, but that is a long way from reality.

Yes, more to the point... as there will be no Xorro expension cards apart from those home made ones, who will be crazy enough to try them out and possibly fry their 3000$ X1000 in the process. That is, assuming that OS4 ever gets the official software support for XMOS chips...

There is a reason why you do not see these hobbyist boards like XMOS and Arduino integrated on the MBs elsewhere...

[dammy]

AROS is an X86 product, that was not the point. I was taliking about PPC. And AROS still runs on one core. Should Hyperion be able utilize both cores that would give AOS an advantage over AROS.

AROS is also PPC and is now ARM Linux hosted as well.  Yes it only runs on one core mainly do to them keeping the 3.1 API holy.  They will have to break the 3.1 API for AROS (on x86/PPC/ARM) to go SMP.

It's not an Amiga, it's a AmigaOne

Yes, I forgot its an AmigaOne that runs AmigaOS, currently planned "Amigas" will be Windows boxes.

The new Amigas are x86 based, they can run Windows but will more then likely be running Linux for the time being, or something else while running AOS 3.x series in emulation, just like how OS4 runs the AOS 3.x apps/games.

Dammy, you'd shit on anything, and I'm not impressed with your opinions.

It's not my opinion, I'm dealing with facts.  If you don't like the facts, that's too bad for you.

If I had the money, I'd buy an X1000. I'm sure that there are enough people that will buy one. I'm completely impressed with the machine, and intend to continue to use "dusty" PPC boxes.

I personally don't care if you buy all 250 A1X1Ks.  I just want to point out there is AROS and it is in PPCland as well as x86land and now ARMland which means it runs on the fastest hardware, even on a single core.

[Iggy]

AROS is also PPC and is now ARM Linux hosted as well.  Yes it only runs on one core mainly do to them keeping the 3.1 API holy.  They will have to break the 3.1 API for AROS (on x86/PPC/ARM) to go SMP.



The new Amigas are x86 based, they can run Windows but will more then likely be running Linux for the time being, or something else while running AOS 3.x series in emulation, just like how OS4 runs the AOS 3.x apps/games.



It's not my opinion, I'm dealing with facts.  If you don't like the facts, that's too bad for you.



I personally don't care if you buy all 250 A1X1Ks.  I just want to point out there is AROS and it is in PPCland as well as x86land and now ARMland which means it runs on the fastest hardware, even on a single core.

You do make some valid points, but as a MorphOS user, I'm happier with the performance of my OS than my experiences with AROS.
I do expect AROS to improve as it matures, but right now I'm not happy with it.
And I don't think I'll have to buy all 250 X1000s. With that small a production run they'll sell quickly.

[Daedalus]

The new Amigas are x86 based, they can run Windows but will more then likely be running Linux for the time being, or something else while running AOS 3.x series in emulation, just like how OS4 runs the AOS 3.x apps/games.

*sigh* I have plenty of apps from the 3.x series which don't need an emulated 3.x environment to run on my OS4 machine, and likewise under MorphOS. They do just fine with CPU emulation while using the native PPC OS functions and integrating to the point where it's impossible to tell which CPU they're compiled for. I still have yet to hear how that would be possible under Linux, Windows, or indeed any mysterious, yet-to-be-written OS for the new C-USA "Amigas". The emulation on any C-USA Amiga will be utterly different to that which is part of OS4 and MorphOS, and possibly AROS in the near future.

You do make some good points (hardware-banging software etc.), but it's a shame you have to bring this "new Amiga" stuff into every conversation, even when the topic most clearly is talking about the X1000. It seems like you take every opportunity to blow your C-USA trumpet in the faces of people who are actually aware of the facts, of the shortcomings of AmigaOS machines, but still want to use them for their hobby.

[commodorejohn]

You do make some good points (hardware-banging software etc.), but it's a shame you have to bring this "new Amiga" stuff into every conversation, even when the topic most clearly is talking about the X1000. It seems like you take every opportunity to blow your C-USA trumpet in the faces of people who are actually aware of the facts, of the shortcomings of AmigaOS machines, but still want to use them for their hobby.

This. Endlessly repeating phrases like "the new Amigas are x86 based" doesn't actually make you righter on what makes an Amiga than MorphOS zealots, OS4 obsessives, AROS nuts, or 68k diehards. (And neither does licensing a trademark, thank you.)

[Iggy]

*sigh* I have plenty of apps from the 3.x series which don't need an emulated 3.x environment to run on my OS4 machine, and likewise under MorphOS. They do just fine with CPU emulation while using the native PPC OS functions and integrating to the point where it's impossible to tell which CPU they're compiled for. I still have yet to hear how that would be possible under Linux, Windows, or indeed any mysterious, yet-to-be-written OS for the new C-USA "Amigas". The emulation on any C-USA Amiga will be utterly different to that which is part of OS4 and MorphOS, and possibly AROS in the near future.

You do make some good points (hardware-banging software etc.), but it's a shame you have to bring this "new Amiga" stuff into every conversation, even when the topic most clearly is talking about the X1000. It seems like you take every opportunity to blow your C-USA trumpet in the faces of people who are actually aware of the facts, of the shortcomings of AmigaOS machines, but still want to use them for their hobby.

We are obviously all hopelessly polarized, but its nice to have a few people in my corner.
Thanks for the post Daedalus.
And I really don't think in terms of MorphOS zealotry, or Amiga fanaticism. I'd like to see all current endeavors succeed. I'm not even negative to CUSA's projects.
I'll let the rest of you argue about the definition of what is or isn't an Amiga.