Bad 3.1 install disks

[frl9lk]

I broke down and got another A4000. The hardware seems to work fine, but I find that my "Install" disks (from both my Commodore and Amiga 3.1 sets!) are bad. Using my 1000 and disksalv didn't work... those disks give me back messages the install_LD can't be found, and fails returncode 10. Do I have any other options than tracking down one more set of install disks? Thanks.

[desiv]

Do I have any other options than tracking down one more set of install disks? Thanks.

You could try writing them back over from the ADF's.
It's possible the disks aren't ruined, just the data is corrupted.

Obviously I can't tell you where those ADFs might be found other than I think Cloanto's Amiga Forever has them?..

But my concern is that maybe it's not your disks...
Both sets being corrupted is possible, but it's also possible your drive is corrupting the disks...

Just throwing that out there..

desiv

[amigappc]

Download ADF-s from torrent or some download site. Some will say it is not legal, but you do OWN original disks so i see no problem in downloading ADF images and transferring them to real floppies.
After all, idiotic companies which hold licenses would do much better if they released all to open source and let community grow... but we will never see that happen in Amiga part of universe..

[frl9lk]

To be clear -- I do own the legitimate disk sets -- both Commodore's and Escom's. I can't find ADFs, but I have to say that it's frustrating to not have such a thing available. Even Apple's old OSes are in the public domain. I understand that a forum like this must respect protocols, but if some one could contact me privately here and point me in the right direction I would really really appreciate it.

(I think I ruined both my sets trying to install on an A2000 I own -- the bad blocks occur in the same place. Floppy failures have consistently been reason I have given up on Amigas -- still my true love for years at a time. That said, I do own a Joyboard and original Amiga joysticks.)

Thanks for any help.

[nicholas]

Would it be breaking the TOC of this site to tell you to google for wb31.zip?

[amigadave]

To be clear -- I do own the legitimate disk sets -- both Commodore's and Escom's. I can't find ADFs, but I have to say that it's frustrating to not have such a thing available. Even Apple's old OSes are in the public domain. I understand that a forum like this must respect protocols, but if some one could contact me privately here and point me in the right direction I would really really appreciate it.

(I think I ruined both my sets trying to install on an A2000 I own -- the bad blocks occur in the same place. Floppy failures have consistently been reason I have given up on Amigas -- still my true love for years at a time. That said, I do own a Joyboard and original Amiga joysticks.)

Thanks for any help.

Wow!  A real "Joyboard" owner?  I have never seen one.

I have probably 5 or 6 complete sets of 3.1 floppy disks and I don't think a single set is without errors.  Every time I do a re-install on one of my Amigas, I have to play the shuffle the floppy game (because the errors are in different places on different sets, so I can get a complete install by removing one bad floppy and replacing it with the same floppy from another set, but only if the replacement floppy is recognized as the same disk when swapped).  It is a very frustrating situation and I have wondered if I can create new Workbench floppy sets from one of my several AmigaForever CD's?  In theory it should be possible, but I have never tried to do it.

As others have suggested, finding the adf's on the Internet to recreate a set of install floppy disks would be easier.

[frl9lk]

The Joyboard is simply a cool thing to have. I don't have any of the three or so games made to work with it, or even a C64 emulator... The pre-Commodore Amiga joysticks on the other hand are great and what I choose to use. Simple, small and responsive.

The errors on my disk sets are so consistent, I feel sure in retrospect I stupidly torched them all on one machine... probably a 2000 I was fighting with a while back.

[amigadave]

The Joyboard is simply a cool thing to have. I don't have any of the three or so games made to work with it, or even a C64 emulator... The pre-Commodore Amiga joysticks on the other hand are great and what I choose to use. Simple, small and responsive.

The errors on my disk sets are so consistent, I feel sure in retrospect I stupidly torched them all on one machine... probably a 2000 I was fighting with a while back.

If you have any version of AmigaForever, you should try to create your own new Amiga Workbench install floppy disks, as all the files required are on the CD.  I can't remember if they are separated into directories for each of the individual floppy disks, like the Workbench disk, the Extras disk, etc., but with some work I think it could be done.  It has been a long, long time since I looked at the file structure on an AmigaForever CD.

If you don't own any version of AmigaForever, you can buy it new, or find someone with an old version that will likely sell it cheap if they have upgraded to a later version.

[actung_bab]

I broke down and got another A4000. The hardware seems to work fine, but I find that my "Install" disks (from both my Commodore and Amiga 3.1 sets!) are bad. Using my 1000 and disksalv didn't work... those disks give me back messages the install_LD can't be found, and fails returncode 10. Do I have any other options than tracking down one more set of install disks? Thanks.

Can say what l did to get wb 3.1 onto compact flash card l have a 3.1 install.dms l can email you l got it ages ago from somone sat on homail for years.
then l used disc salv 2 to savage 2 disks that had errors on the install did this on another
1200 on fly while installing on the first amiga , used disc slav 2 disc where fixable used salvage option copyed to hd , then formated blank floppy copyed files over to blank disk
then just using the assing command on 1st amiga when said insert locale 3.1 l just
typed assign locale 3.1 to df0:
l had this problem in past is a pain l have 3.5 os cdrom but lost my serial
l think therory u surposed to be able to install from cd l done it with win uae
but never on a real amiga