Any way to stop Picasso96 once it's started.

[Ral-Clan]

Hi, I have a few pieces of software that behave badly when Picasso96 RTG software is present.  Even if I set the Workbench screenmode back to a native chipset mode, and then start the fussy application, the application doesn't like it.   I have to boot cleanly from a different non-RTG workbench setup to get the software to work properly.

It would be a lot easier if there was some way to boot in my normal RTG workbench, switch over to a chipset screenmode workbench, then FLUSH all instances of Picasso96 from my Amiga....

But I'm not sure how I would do this....is there any way to absolutely flush Picasso96 from being "resident" in my Amiga AFTER the Amiga has already booted and started up Picasso96?

[Franko]

Hi, I have a few pieces of software that behave badly when Picasso96 RTG software is present.  Even if I set the Workbench screenmode back to a native chipset mode, and then start the fussy application, the application doesn't like it.   I have to boot cleanly from a different non-RTG workbench setup to get the software to work properly.

It would be a lot easier if there was some way to boot in my normal RTG workbench, switch over to a chipset screenmode workbench, then FLUSH all instances of Picasso96 from my Amiga....

But I'm not sure how I would do this....is there any way to absolutely flush Picasso96 from being "resident" in my Amiga AFTER the Amiga has already booted and started up Picasso96?

I found the simplest way to disable the CyberGraphics modes was by simply removing or moving the files "CGXAGA" and its .info file out of the Devs:Monitors/ drawer and rebooting.

Dunno if the same would apply to the Picasso ones but it may be worth a try...

[T3000]

Hi, I have a few pieces of software that behave badly when Picasso96 RTG software is present.

Which ones?
Have you tried ModePro?

[smerf]

@ral-clan

When Picasso 96 first turns on take a 44 mag gun and shoot it, oops you are from Canada sorry but you will have to do manual labor, take a sludge hammer and hit it, first hit the Computer and then the monitor (if it is still showing Picasso 96).

If this fails, which it shouldn't, try removing the PicassoII icon out of the monitors drawer in the devs section under prefs.

If you use the first method please send me your Amiga, so that I can use it for parts.

Have Fun,

Hit it really hard with that sledge hammer.

smerf

[Ral-Clan]

Hi Guys,

Sledge hammers are illegal here in Canada, and we can only use Croquet Hammers when we have our tea.  We do have a lot of Curling brooms though.

The software that behaves badly is DPaint 5 and Brilliance.  Actually both behave pretty great under OS3.9 with Workbench in an RTG mode, except that each has a very small niggling bug.

DPAINT: When you use the *new* airbrush tool, you get strange multi-coloured pixel garbage in the painted result.  When you boot up from a plain vanilla WB3.1 disk (no Picasso96) and then start DPAINT, the new airbrush tool works fine.

BRILLIANCE: Everything works great, except for when you want to animate a brush.  You choose your start and end positions and then when you tell Brilliance to make the tweens, the brush is stamped down in the right location but it's mangled looking.  Again, if you boot from a plain vanilla WB3.1 disk this bug is not present.

Note: I am not trying to run either piece of software in a RTG/Picasso96 mode, I am running them in native chipset modes (they will not promote to RTG modes either, I have tried many times).  It's just that both applications don't even like Picasso96 to be installed at all or else the bugs manifest themselves (at least I think it is the presence of Picasso96 - it may be something else in OS3.9....but I have removed everything from my startup drawer and the bad behaviour still occurs).

Maybe someone else who uses OS3.9 or Picasso96 can try the above apps and see if the bugs I have described happen to them.

[nicholas]

Hi Guys,

Sledge hammers are illegal here in Canada, and we can only use Croquet Hammers when we have our tea.  We do have a lot of Curling brooms though.

The software that behaves badly is DPaint 5 and Brilliance.  Actually both behave pretty great under OS3.9 with Workbench in an RTG mode, except that each has a very small niggling bug.

DPAINT: When you use the *new* airbrush tool, you get strange multi-coloured pixel garbage in the painted result.  When you boot up from a plain vanilla WB3.1 disk (no Picasso96) and then start DPAINT, the new airbrush tool works fine.

BRILLIANCE: Everything works great, except for when you want to animate a brush.  You choose your start and end positions and then when you tell Brilliance to make the tweens, the brush is stamped down in the right location but it's mangled looking.  Again, if you boot from a plain vanilla WB3.1 disk this bug is not present.

Note: I am not trying to run either piece of software in a RTG/Picasso96 mode, I am running them in native chipset modes (they will not promote to RTG modes either, I have tried many times).  It's just that both applications don't even like Picasso96 to be installed at all or else the bugs manifest themselves (at least I think it is the presence of Picasso96 - it may be something else in OS3.9....but I have removed everything from my startup drawer and the bad behaviour still occurs).

Maybe someone else who uses OS3.9 or Picasso96 can try the above apps and see if the bugs I have described happen to them.

Have you tried installing the following, long shot but it might help.

http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/Picasso96.htm

Failing that perhaps you could try uninstalling P96 and installing Cybergraphx instead.

[xeron]

Picasso96 is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you reboot.
-- Kyle Reese

[ChaosLord]

Picasso 96 and CGX both have a lot of bugs.  Once you start them you are screwed.  The End.

[MastaTabs]

To disable P96 on boot just press and hold your right mouse button.
The machine should come up then in the default mode whatever the hardware is set to.

[Ral-Clan]

To disable P96 on boot just press and hold your right mouse button.
The machine should come up then in the default mode whatever the hardware is set to.

Hey Thanks for that great tip!  I cannot believe in over 20 years of using Amigas I didn't know about that.  I knew about holding both mouse buttons for the early startup screen, but not the right mouse button!

So now Deluxe Paint works just fine, no pixel garbage with the airbrush.

And I also found out my problem with Brilliance!  Brilliance doesn't like my 68040's FPU!  If I turn the FPU off it runs fine!

Yeah!  So happy!  Two long-nagging bugs finally rooted out!

[smerf]

To disable P96 on boot just press and hold your right mouse button.
The machine should come up then in the default mode whatever the hardware is set to.

Hi,

@MastaTabs,

I like the sledge hammer option better, myself.
To think all these years and I didn't know that.
Must be getting senile with age.

smerf