Amiga 3D Games - The Videos...

[jj]

Hey it's all good, I feel the same way about fans of Amiga platformers, so.

 
I have to agree compared to console platformeres.  Platform games on the amiga pretty much universally sucked witha  few exceptions.
 
I love all types of games, but FPS gamesare good if its what you like.  Been playing COD since the first game on PC.   Benn playing black ops online sooooooooo much.
 
But there again also been loving fable 3 and the new assassins creed.

[wawrzon]

Blizzard and their two billion dollars a year of profit disagree with you.  Or if you like, you can take your argument up with the hundreds of thousands of people who play TF2, Left 4 Dead (and L4D2), and on and on and on...

IOW,

Problem?

i dont need to take argument mit dumbnuts, even if they outnumber others by magnitudes. there is no much difference consuming alcohol, drugs or online fps, these things are not interesting by themselves.. they are there to run away from the reality.

[jj]

The whole point of games in general is to take you away from reality.  So whats your point ?

[wawrzon]

my only point is that there is opium for the masses and this is the like of online fps, where the only thing you get is offloading your most atavistic aggressions in a kind of dumb trance. and there is more interesting stuff, which by definition needs to be single player, because otherwise you cant tell any story. online games have to be dumb and repetitive, and this how many people are playing them or not doesnt make them any better in my eyes.

[jj]

I think your not seeing the whold picture winth inlie FPS or online games as a whole.
 
Yes its harder or impossible or to have a narative or proper storyline.
 
Howver given the very nature of online fps etc being generally team based you find naturally emerging scenarios and situations that get remebered for months/years to come and people talk about in work/pub etc.

[wawrzon]

thats right. ive witnessed such things. though i think if you seek company real life might suit you better. this is exactly the breaking point where it might become unhealthy. dragging you away, into the fantasy.. y know all that stuff. ok, im not going to evangelise.
therefore i prefer games that have a beginning and an end. like good book. not like a soap opera.

[runequester]

Well, there's something to it. I know plenty of people that have lives that pretty much revolve around world of warcraft, to the extent where it interferes with their families, jobs etc.

But they'd probably be wasting their lives doing something else instead, if they didn't have WOW so eh.


This discussion has drifted pretty heavily off topic though

[Franko]

I think by now most of you will know my opinions on most aspects of modern day gameing and computing but that's all it is, an opinion, nothing more nothing less...

If folk get enjoyment from these then good luck lo them even though I may not understand why, that doesn't matter one wee bit if you enjoy something then carry on doing what you enjoy...

Suppose I'm at the age now where I can see why my parents couldn't understand me and my mates sitting in the bedroom cursing and screaming like banshees as we played our old VIC 20 or C64 games with mum and dad banging on the ceiling telling us to keep the noise down and cut out the swearing...

I just have to look at my young nephew, uni education, working his way up through the ranks of the civil service and the minute he gets home it's off to his room to play with all his consoles & PCs with these FPP games, and I still call him brain dead, even though he's far from it...

Reckon life just goes round in cycles from one generation to the next, in computer terms the game styles and hardware may change but the underlying themes behind it all remains the same, fun, enjoyment & escapism from the grind of everyday life...

(think they must put something in me Horlicks that affects the brain turning you into a grumpy old man...

[runequester]

everything goes in circles

Playing games at least is better than social sniping on facebook.


A while ago, we went to a friends birthday party... and the first 2 hours was a big pile of early 20somethings discussing ... what happened on facebook.

[Karlos]

A while ago, we went to a friends birthday party... and the first 2 hours was a big pile of early 20somethings discussing ... what happened on facebook.

You are made of stronger stuff than me. I would have been looking for vallium, razor blades or rope after just 30 mins...

[runequester]

You are made of stronger stuff than me. I would have been looking for vallium, razor blades or rope after just 30 mins...

The solution has traditionally been drinking heavily and dominating the CD player

[wawrzon]

i recall one of final parties of my gymnasium class. happened that the guy has set up an 800xl, and half the people spent the time drinking in front of it and waiting for montezumas revenge to load. remember, it was like half an hour a tape and the setup was so shaky, it was constantly breaking down. few of my mates were freshly converted baptists, and one of them - particularly militant - told us, we were as if sitting and looking at a bare plank. there was nothing. it was a cool party even though.

[yssing]

A real shame that Trapped3 never got released.

[Digiman]

my only point is that there is opium for the masses and this is the like of online fps, where the only thing you get is offloading your most atavistic aggressions in a kind of dumb trance. and there is more interesting stuff, which by definition needs to be single player, because otherwise you cant tell any story. online games have to be dumb and repetitive, and this how many people are playing them or not doesnt make them any better in my eyes.

Wrong.

Some gaming experiences are simply impossible without FPS (and thanks to Windows being so shit and PCs needing incredibly powerful CPUs just to run that rubbish acceptably).

Let me see...I can play Cannon Fodder on a 16bit machine...or...I can play Battlefield 2 for free with 63 other people in a photo-realistic sandbox environment. The only dumb asses are the ones who will tell me there is

a. a difference in the act of playing the game
b. playing cannon fodder is the more immersive of those gaming experiences.

Sometimes technology finds a useful application, in this case it is bloatware OS needing ludicrously powerful CPU just to double click some  desktop icons has led to super powerful game engines and liberated some, not all, game genres.

If you don't like it don't play, don't call people who roll with technology and enjoy the fruits of AMD/Intel's hard work in their current gaming dumb asses or other derogatory terms.

[Digiman]

All of Paul Norman's games for the C64 that he did through Cosmi were brilliant, even if only for the music.

Forbidden Forest 2 has some awesome 3 layer parallax your character can interact with, quite impressive.

[wawrzon]

Wrong.

Some gaming experiences are simply impossible without FPS (and thanks to Windows being so shit and PCs needing incredibly powerful CPUs just to run that rubbish acceptably).

Let me see...I can play Cannon Fodder on a 16bit machine...or...I can play Battlefield 2 for free with 63 other people in a photo-realistic sandbox environment. The only dumb asses are the ones who will tell me there is

a. a difference in the act of playing the game
b. playing cannon fodder is the more immersive of those gaming experiences.

Sometimes technology finds a useful application, in this case it is bloatware OS needing ludicrously powerful CPU just to double click some  desktop icons has led to super powerful game engines and liberated some, not all, game genres.

If you don't like it don't play, don't call people who roll with technology and enjoy the fruits of AMD/Intel's hard work in their current gaming dumb asses or other derogatory terms.

i must admit ive never played cannon fodder as well.

i think what is going wrong is that gaming tries to get to realistic. already in my speccy times i considered that the games just have to stay what they are supposed to be, just games. it might sound weird. heh or overly conservative, ok. i could bother a little with battlefield as long it was out in ww2 scenery (i ve got through the single player), it was making it a little more remote, more like fantasy. but this present setting just puts me off. it literally stinks of advocating modern warfare and trying to attract the people to it as if this was fun. sorry i cant cope with it. not only because i dont support this, but it also bores me. the same applies to titles like crysis btw, even if this is a little more of a fantasy setup, but in the end it boils down to the same.