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Offline Darrin

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Re: DENUB USB adding USB Classes
« Reply #14 from previous page: October 17, 2010, 10:32:31 PM »
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Ok, well that's a start. Looks like I am heading down the right path now at least.  What TCP stack are you using for it?  Any tips on getting that setup?


Here's an extract from a thread I started on here back in 2008.  Hope it helps:

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Here's a little something to share with everybody, I've got my A4000D surfing the net using the Deneb USB card, OS3.9 and an off-the-shelf PC USB Ethernet device.

Here's the USB Ethernet device I bought for $19.99:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=443248&CatId=589

I plugged it into the Deneb which immediately detected it and mounted it as USBASIXETH.DEVICE unit 0.

Save your USB settings.

Now configure Genesis using the wizard"
Select "Network" for how you plan to connect.
For device enter "usbasixeth.device" and set unit as "0"
Under SANA II configuration select "no"
Don't worry about it not detecting your network address, just manually enter your own (my home network assigns 192.168.0.xxx so I used 192.168.0.110).
Enter your subnet mask (probably 255.255.255.0) and your router address (in my case 192.168.0.1)
Enter your Domain Name Server (DNS) - 192.168.0.1 in my case
Enter your Domain Name ("cablerocket.net" in my case).

Reboot your Amiga and check your Trident prefs and you should see your ethernet adapter up and running. Check Genesis and put the USBASIXETH0 device online if it isn't already. Open your web browser and start surfing!
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Re: DENUB USB adding USB Classes
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2010, 12:49:10 AM »
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It depends on your setup....I've played with Genesis & MiamiDX but my router works best with Genesis using static IP & gateway address.


Well, first off, not sure if it's working correctly.

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/USB

Does Trident show a class of the device for you? Sorry for the darkness at top, camera phone pic.  Are those errors below normal for it on startup?  There is a cable plugged in.


It says it's bound to the dm9601eth.class, but Class shows ? None.  Is that normal?

I upgraded to OS 3.9 to run Genesis, but still not able to get far.  Genesis and Easynet both are looking for a driver in Devs:Network for this, but there is none there.  So if this is how it is supposed to work in Trident, I'll mess around with the Genesis settings I suppose.
 

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Re: DENUB USB adding USB Classes
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2010, 01:49:10 AM »
From the Trident Classes>Select USB Class Library menu double click "dm9601eth.class" to add to the available USB Classes.....or if its still unsure you can add the the whole USB class directory via [dir scan button]

From the Trident Devices menu click [class scan button]...the NIC should show as green & running.

Save changes to PsdStackLoader file...take note of where it is saved.

Deneb must be flashed each time changes are made in Trident with the updated PsdStackLoader file.

The driver device is in resident memory.  I use the program Scout to show devices available.   For Genesis/Miami, the device name is: dm9601eth.device
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Re: DENUB USB adding USB Classes
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2010, 05:13:01 AM »
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From the Trident Classes>Select USB Class Library menu double click "dm9601eth.class" to add to the available USB Classes.....or if its still unsure you can add the the whole USB class directory via [dir scan button]

From the Trident Devices menu click [class scan button]...the NIC should show as green & running.

Save changes to PsdStackLoader file...take note of where it is saved.

Deneb must be flashed each time changes are made in Trident with the updated PsdStackLoader file.

The driver device is in resident memory.  I use the program Scout to show devices available.   For Genesis/Miami, the device name is: dm9601eth.device

Well, as far as I can tell it is bound to the class.

But not sure if it's supposed to show a class or not.

Here is what it looks like unbound to a class.

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/usb1&bgcolor=black

I click class scan, now that I have dm6901eth.class loaded, it binds to it, then it looks like this.

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/usb2&bgcolor=black

Is it supposed to show a class?  Or does it look like this for everyone?  

I then can see on classes tab, it's bound to it.

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/usb3&bgcolor=black

But when I look at the details of the adapter, I see

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/USB4&bgcolor=black

And when it detects it and comes online, always get this error at bottom about no link, check plug.  But cable is fine.  However, no link light shows on the NIC or the hub.

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/USB&bgcolor=black


I can't tell what I am doing wrong.   Do the class files and PsdStackLoader have to be loaded into flash?  They can't work loaded after the fact?  Maybe that's my problem.  

I manually added the device to the Genesis.conf file, like this

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/usb5&bgcolor=black

But not even sure if it's setup correct in Trident.  I can start GenesisRA and click online with the adapter, it says it's online, but I have no link light, nor can ping anything.    :angry:
 

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Re: DENUB USB adding USB Classes
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2010, 09:37:04 AM »
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Well, as far as I can tell it is bound to the class.

But not sure if it's supposed to show a class or not.

Here is what it looks like unbound to a class.

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/usb1&bgcolor=black

I click class scan, now that I have dm6901eth.class loaded, it binds to it, then it looks like this.

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/usb2&bgcolor=black

Is it supposed to show a class?  Or does it look like this for everyone?  

I then can see on classes tab, it's bound to it.

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/usb3&bgcolor=black

But when I look at the details of the adapter, I see

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/USB4&bgcolor=black

>>> It seems to be normal for that model USB NIC I get the same Trident status messages.


And when it detects it and comes online, always get this error at bottom about no link, check plug.  But cable is fine.  However, no link light shows on the NIC or the hub.

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/USB&bgcolor=black

>>> This is not normal if the NIC is working and talking to your hub...router the NIC's status light should be on, flashing.  Do you have another computer to test the NIC?



I can't tell what I am doing wrong.   Do the class files and PsdStackLoader have to be loaded into flash?  They can't work loaded after the fact?  Maybe that's my problem.  

>>> Each time the PsdStackLoader file is updated it should be flashed to Deneb to reflect changes after a reboot


I manually added the device to the Genesis.conf file, like this

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/usb5&bgcolor=black

>>> I can logon to my router/PC windoze to check & test the status of the Amiga USB NIC connection.  Does your USB NIC work on another PC?


But not even sure if it's setup correct in Trident.  I can start GenesisRA and click online with the adapter, it says it's online, but I have no link light, nor can ping anything.    :angry:[/QUOTE]
 

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Re: DENUB USB adding USB Classes
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2010, 12:20:33 AM »
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>>> It seems to be normal for that model USB NIC I get the same Trident status messages.


And when it detects it and comes online, always get this error at bottom about no link, check plug.  But cable is fine.  However, no link light shows on the NIC or the hub.

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/USB&bgcolor=black

>>> This is not normal if the NIC is working and talking to your hub...router the NIC's status light should be on, flashing.  Do you have another computer to test the NIC?



I can't tell what I am doing wrong.   Do the class files and PsdStackLoader have to be loaded into flash?  They can't work loaded after the fact?  Maybe that's my problem.  

>>> Each time the PsdStackLoader file is updated it should be flashed to Deneb to reflect changes after a reboot


I manually added the device to the Genesis.conf file, like this

http://gallery.me.com/trickyt#100036/usb5&bgcolor=black

>>> I can logon to my router/PC windoze to check & test the status of the Amiga USB NIC connection.  Does your USB NIC work on another PC?


But not even sure if it's setup correct in Trident.  I can start GenesisRA and click online with the adapter, it says it's online, but I have no link light, nor can ping anything.    :angry:
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Thanks all.  I am now on the intertubes..  The solution was Five bucks and the saving of my sanity.  

I think around 1am last night I got the damn link light to start working  on that blue NIC.  At some point, I think I got the stack working as my  time went to the correct time.  Yet, I still couldn't ping or get to anything.

Went to bed due to lack of sleep and it's been bothering me all day.  Found this site, good reference for anyone else wanting a USB nic.

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/AROS_USB_support#Asix_8817x_.28USB2.3F.29

Shows what NICs from each class work.  Wanted something from Pegasus or Asix, as those two classes are supposed out of the box from all TCP stacks.

Looked up a pic of a few of them to try to find locally.  Of course, nobody sells USB Nics outside of wireless ones these days, so online ordering is your best bet.  

Well, decided to hit the local PC-Recycle down the street and saw a Belkin that looks like this pic from the Pegasus click.

http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F5D5050-Networking-Ethernet-Adaptor/dp/B000062R4P

Picked it up for 5 bucks and grabbed another for five bucks as well.  Didn't want to screw around.

http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-Linksys-USB200M-EtherFast-Network-Adapter/dp/B000085ZKV/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1287443667&sr=1-1

Got home, plugged them in.  Both worked with about 5 seconds of work configuring the USB classes and Genesis/Easynet config files.

Belkin works with the Pegasus class, Linksys works with asix class.

Downloading some stuff now.  Best 10 bucks I ever spent!!

Thanks all for the help.  This board rocks!!
 

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Re: DENUB USB adding USB Classes
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2010, 02:19:35 AM »
Strange. One of my USB Ethernet thingys binds to a class, shows None as the identified class, and no lights come on, just like yours, yet it works fine.

Oh well. Glad you're up and running!
 

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Re: DENUB USB adding USB Classes
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2010, 03:30:30 AM »
It isn't easy to find USB ethernet adapters for computers, but it is easy to find them for game consoles.

I bought mine at GameStop.  It's made by Nyko for a Nintendo Wii and I think it was about $20.

It shows up as an asixeth and works great with Deneb so far.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2010, 03:34:54 AM by Heiroglyph »
 

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Re: DENUB USB adding USB Classes
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2010, 04:10:03 AM »
Glad you got it working.  I also use the Cisco-Linksys USB200M.
Some more useful info regarding USB compatible Deneb devices:

http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11432

http://www.platon42.de/poseidon.html
« Last Edit: October 19, 2010, 04:18:50 AM by Brosol »