found some nice Amiga 3D stickers for our cases!

[amigakit]

If we spend the time to set up the licensing and pay the royalty fee for stickers, that would have to be factored into the final selling price.  If we sold at the same rate at other unlicensed sellers, we would have greater costs to market.  Would this be fair?

Here is the link:
http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=134:hyperion-entertainment-cvba-and-amiga-inc-reach-settlement&catid=38:corporate&Itemid=18

Within the framework of the settlement agreement Hyperion is granted an exclusive, perpetual, worldwide right to AmigaOS 3.1 in order to use, develop, modify, commercialize, distribute and market AmigaOS 4.x (and subsequent versions of AmigaOS including without limitation AmigaOS 5) in any form, on any medium and for any current or future hardware platform under the exclusive trademark “AmigaOS” (Amiga operating system) and using other associated trademarks (such as the “BoingBall” logo).

[the_leander]

If we spend the time to set up the licensing and pay the royalty fee for stickers, that would have to be factored into the final selling price.  If we sold at the same rate at other unlicensed sellers, we would have greater costs to market.  Would this be fair?

I didn't say it would be fair. What I said was it came off as hollow that you (or, afaik anyone else with a licence) have nothing that this competes with it. If you're not offering a similar product, what exactly is the issue?

There is clearly a market for these sorts of things. Why not make a legitimate offering? I suspect that the market could take the entry of a sticker that cost a few pence more that had the official stamp of approval, especially when it comes from a known good supplier, such as yourself.

Here is the link:
http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=134:hyperion-entertainment-cvba-and-amiga-inc-reach-settlement&catid=38:corporate&Itemid=18

Thanks for the clarification.

[amigakit]

Its a good suggestion, we will look into it.

[Dragster]

Just bought these very nice quality case stickers for my Samflex case and keyboard mainly but also to slap onto my monitor and my work notebook too ;-) ..they have many other Amiga logos too

The Ebay store is called Hardware Shuttle and I am very happy with their customer service and quick shipping time..oh and the price is great at $1 each too

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[carvedeye]

Just bought these very nice quality case stickers for my Samflex case and keyboard mainly but also to slap onto my monitor and my work notebook too ;-) ..they have many other Amiga logos too

The Ebay store is called Hardware Shuttle and I am very happy with their customer service and quick shipping time..oh and the price is great at $1 each too

this the shop i bought my case badge from very well made and very professional. i got the boing ball which has flames coming from the back of it with a black background looks very nice on my case.

[kolla]

Is there any definition to what constitutes "the BoingBall logo"?
I ask since I've seen multiple variants with different number of rows etc. even from Amiga Inc. and Hyperion.

Anyways, trademarks need to be defended legally by the trademark holder.

[kolla]

Even if Amiga Inc are a dormant business entity, their IP is still protected.

That depends on the IP in question, there are different laws and regulations for patents, copyrights, trademarks, slogans etc.

Btw. it seems to me that "AmigaOS" is not registered as a trademark at USPTO, and I don't find any "Boing Ball" either... hm?

[amigakit]

A quick search will reveal this:
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4008:fio9qg.3.1
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4004:bd746g.2.1

[the_leander]

A quick search will reveal this:
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4008:fio9qg.3.1
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4004:bd746g.2.1

Those links come up as with the following:

This search session has expired. Please start a search session again by clicking on the TRADEMARK icon, if you wish to continue.

But again, Kolla's point about what exactly constitutes a "boingball" is quite important.

Also, wouldn't the person who wrote the original Juggler demo (from which the boing ball logo is derived) have some say in this?

[amigakit]

Search for Serial Numbers:

78940417 and 78940434

The color(s) red and white is/are claimed as a feature of the mark. The mark consists of the design of a checkered ball. The mark consists of a ball logo, in which the color red appears in the checkered design within the ball design of the mark, and the color white appears in the checkered design within the ball design of the mark.

[Darrin]

Also, wouldn't the person who wrote the original Juggler demo (from which the boing ball logo is derived) have some say in this?

Didn't the checkered red & white "bouncing ball" demo pre-date that?  I even remember a C64 version of it coming out.

[JimS]

Also, wouldn't the person who wrote the original Juggler demo (from which the boing ball logo is derived) have some say in this?

uhhh... the boing ball predates the juggler demo... being based on the original boing demo from the days of the wire wrapped prototype.

[JimS]

Here is the link:
http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=134:hyperion-entertainment-cvba-and-amiga-inc-reach-settlement&catid=38:corporate&Itemid=18

An anal type... like a lawyer... ;-) could argue that that agreement only gives Hyperion the exclusive right to the "AmigaOS" trademark. While letting them use the boing ball logo and other trademarks, those would still be under control of AI...