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Re: What makes a real Amiga ?
« Reply #14 from previous page: June 02, 2010, 02:50:48 PM »
that guide is just showing you how to copy the kickstart rom from any physical amiga to use in an emulator. the concept is similar (though easier) if you simply own an kickstart chip. or broken amiga or just a motherboard.

I would recommend Amiga Forever by cloanto software. Even if you have a real amiga, Amiga Forever has all the roms from 1.0 to 3.1, as well as os discs, games, apps and demos.
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Re: What makes a real Amiga ?
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2010, 03:06:47 PM »
Quote from: Bigbronc;562439
Looking at the web page legal emulation, the requirements are for a real Amiga:
 
[/LIST]My question is what makes a real Amiga, is my A2000 not real, is there a difference in these computers?


Really oversimplified A1000(OCS chipset original), A2000/A500(ECS chipset second gen), A3000 (ECS chipset, flicker fixer - 2 1/2 gen), A4000/A1200 (AGA chipset 3rd generation.) - slight variations to all chipsets and the OS ROM has changed throughout.

For me, What was and always has made an Amiga an Amiga was it's user friendly unique OS and the community of tweakers. Yes, the custom chips made this OS run very fast in the day by supporting multitasking multimedia but they were not what made the Amiga. I for one would love to be able to buy reasonably priced hardware to run AmigaOS natively and see AmigaOS continue to be developed.

Yes, I know it's way behind in OS design, I use Linux all the time but there is still something about it that is really different for me. Would I like to see emulation available with it to let me run old games/demos/etc. sure but having AmigaOS a choice on modern reasonably priced hardware for my daily computing needs would make me very happy.

I just wish H&P or whoever now has all the code would just open source it all and find another way to make money off supporting it.

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Re: What makes a real Amiga ?
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2010, 03:11:45 PM »
I think this guy is basically asking where can you legally get a kickstart rom. The answer to which of course is any amiga model commodore made, any ksrom you get outside an amiga, or even in a broken amiga or motherboard, or Amiga Forever.

the question "what is an amiga, or what makes a computer an amiga?" would get quite a few different answers.
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Re: What makes a real Amiga ?
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2010, 04:10:40 PM »
Real Amiga: One of the original chipsets with a 680X0 cpu ;)
 

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Re: What makes a real Amiga ?
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2010, 06:29:22 PM »
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I presume you mean no clone Amigas?

1. Commodore didn't licence the chipset.


Here's a partial list of companies that have a license to some part of the Amiga at least:
Cloanto
CU Amiga in 1993
PC Intern in 1999
Amiga Plus and PC Magazine in 2000
Epic Marketing
Runesoft GmbH
Village Tronic Marketing GmbH for "Amiga OS 3.1"
Hyperion Entertainment VOF
Escom AG
MS MacroSystem Computer GmbH --> MacroSystem Digital Video AG
Tianjin Family Multimedia Co.
Newstar Electronic Corporation
Rightiming Electronics Corporation
Regent Electronics Corp.
Lotus Pacific Inc.


Actual machines...  I think there are more but here are a few I remember...

There was the Access:


Draco's as someone mentioned.


The Chinese Wonder TV A6000 and A6060
A3000D (16mhz, 2MB Chip, 4MB Fast, SCSI (300+MB), SuperGen Genlock, Kick 3.1)
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