THE BIG ANNOUNCEMENT AT WOASE

[whabang]

How about IE7 on AOS 4.X, PocketPC, PalmOS and Smartphone???

 :-D  :-D  :-D

No wonder Amiga Inc begged people to not port Mozilla... :-P

[olegil]

Well, IE for Mac isn't half bad. It's a completely different product from IE for Windows. Probably because IE for Windows isn't portable in that way. So they just got someone from the original team to do the rewrite. Opera has also done this in the past. Opera for different platforms had _completely_ different bugs in the rendering engine.

[Valan]

You guys sound like you've been asleep for the past decade.

MS developed MSBasic for the Amiga and did not buy it... even when it was on sale!

Like all new hardware their PDAs and Phones need content to sell them. MS seriously need AA and AA get a good distribution deal quicker than anyone thought.

Even though MS have the Xbox they still sell dev systems to companies that support rival consoles.

As the retail outlets increase it will look more attractive to other developers. It may also help AI get old Commodore/Amiga back catalogue onto PDA/Smartphone.

With the government watching them MS cannot force the same agreements onto other companies like they used to.

Wake up!!

[clebin]

My own company has had a so-called partnership with Microsoft. Given that our product is heavily ActiveDirectory-based, you'd think that they would back us, particularly as LDAP is one battle they haven't won.

But when it came to the crunch, Microsoft couldn't resist going in with their own, inferior solution. I should say that not everyone in my company thinks like I do - this is just what I see.

Partnership with Microsoft seems to come with a lot of psychological pressure - some of it comes from Microsoft and a lot of it is from within (how can you not think about how your actions will be judged by the biggest software company in the world?)

But while I saw little reward from MS, they wanted to know, for instance, why we still had a partnership/OEM agreement with this other company. That partnership was solid and historic and Microsoft didn't even have a product that could really compete.

So after a while, you start asking "should we be selling this? should we be doing this? What will they think if we do this?" Our J2EE-based product was certainly a victim of that.

So when it comes to a company like Amiga, however subtle the pressure from Microsoft, how can they not question supporting or partnering with Microsoft's competitors in the real heart of Microsoft's world?

If, as a company, you start to restrict your decisions, and limit your horizons based on another's influence and your own paranoia, you lose sight of what's best for yourself.

I'm happy to say that we've changed our strategy and sanity has returned, but there's one less J2EE product on general sale as a result.

Of course, being Amiga should come with a strong sense of identity, but they need to have a REALLY clear idea of who they are and where they are going, and be prepared to stick to it.

Chris

[System]

Think of it like this - by encouraging a potential competitor they are trying to show that they don't have quite such a monopoly on the emerging hardware platforms that Amiga Anywhere targets.

No monopoly no expensive court bills.

[System]

Are there any DE developpers out there anyway?

Yes, there are more active DE developers than you may suspect. Some of their names you probably recognize, others of us hope to become recognized as time goes on.

As for the Microsoft announcement; I am extreamly excited. As a software developer for a major US corporation, the possiblity of forming my own company to develop software that "I want to make" is very exciting. Amiga is providing that opportunity for me and anyone else who wants go along for the ride. Microsoft is providing one of the avenues down which we may travel and hopefully prosper.

NOW is the time stop bemoaning past mistakes and get involved, in any way you can, in creating Amiga's future. It's either that or get out of the way so the rest of us can do it  ;-)

[ksk]

"AACE porting to OS4 started" now, that would be BIG NEWS. Too bad that it's just my hallucination...

[artman]

Seem's to me, something that I've read or heard, that Bill gates had something to do with the original Amiga OS way back when(in the A1000 days) that may apply today, legaley or whatever.  Sorry for any misspellling.

[Marky_D_Sahd]

M$ developed th OS for C=64, but that's OT.
What does M$ get out of this?  A percentage (Or maybe AI is paying them a distribution fee?).  They also get some credibility in a new market where they had none before.  They also get what they got from Apple:  More proof that they are NOT a monopoly :roflmao:
Still, I was watching that new version of "It's A Wonderful Life" with Bill Gates as Old Man Potter and Amiga Bill as Uncle Billy.  I remember the scene in the bank, as Uncle Billy sees Old Man Potter near the tellers

UNCLE BILLY: "Well hello, Mr.Potter!  How are things today?  Have you heard the latest from those Amiga boys?  They're pretty hot stuff!  Here, hold our entire product line for a minute so I can show you what's in today's paper!  Looks like content, Mr. Potter, content in areas you never could have gotten into on your own.  Well, just goes to show that you just can't keep those Amiga boys down.  Come and see us if you need a loan in the future!  Good day, Mr. Potter!

(Wait... Now where did I put that product line?)"

[Marky_D_Sahd]

Sorry.  Must've nodded off in front of the telly again.

[Cerpheus]

>Someone explain to me what M$ gets out of all of >this? There's something missing. I don't know what to >think. I guess it's good, even though I hate M$ as a >
company.

good promotion, they show that beside Windows still other operation systems are existing.

[Billsey]

Poster: mos107 Date: 2002/11/3 6:37:04

As most people seem to have taken this out of context I will try to recount the speech from what I can remember (the speeches wil be out today so you can all hear it from for yourselves)

Any idea where we can get these mp3's? I'd like to play them for my non-Amiga buddies.  :-)

[Kermito]

Maybe this is the last chance for Amiga to survive, but even that, I don't like the idea of my monies going to M$ pocket, direct or indirectly speaking.  :-(

[MobbyG]

Man, the RAM chip in my computer goes bad and I'm offline for 4 days and look what happens.

Well, I for one am wary of M$. They have a track record of pulling the rug out from under companies. But on the other hand, this can be a god thing.. a VERY good thing for AI.  Shelf space in CompuUSA and "WallyWord" (Wal*Mart)? Hmmm... Can't beat that.

I support the idea, but would say be cautious and watch them.