Amiga.org Downloads section now online

[System]

Mainly, because we already have aminet and people know that whenever they want something "Amiga" thats were they go.

I never, ever intend to slight Urban and crew.  I think for the last x years, the job they've done has been very admirable.  I just feel that the Aminet concept is about 10 years past it's prime and desperately unusable (at least to me).  This is not intended to reflect on Urban, this is more a reflection of the lack of update and change over the last 10 years.  Oh, wait, I forgot, you Amiga users don't actually **like** change, do you.... :-P

Our little thing is not intended to replace the Aminet.  For a fact, it will carry mostly useful files such as drivers, etc.  We certainly wouldn't have the hard drive space for another Aminet to begin with.

Our SourceForge implementation on the other hand...  Very much intended to give developers a place to build their projects and work with teams...  Once projects are done, why not store them here?

Wayne Hunt

[Rodney]

Oh, wait, I forgot, you Amiga users don't actually **like** change, do you....  

Well thats were ive got you there

I dont used Amiga's. I havnt since 4+ years ago. The only reason i stick around is because of the possibility of some change .

And for the record, i like the changes. Maybe we should convince the aminet people to.. i dont know... hand it over? Or, do some joint thing with Amiga.org or something... Unite Amigaians

[boing]

Wayne, I see nothing wrong with Aminet.  Remember the ftp-only Boing net?  And there are now nice web front-ends for Aminet.  So other than the pathetic and idiotic descriptions that some uploaders submit, I think it's great.

The only thing I'd like to see for Aminet is the ability for users to add additional descriptions (and be searchable) to the ones already there (submitted by uploader).   Frankly a lot of descriptions on Aminet are inaccurate, poorly-thought out, lacking the meaningful  keywords or too vague to be of any indication as to what the file/archive does.

 Now if Amiga.org users could somehow have so input on that problem, we'd all be better off.


-Boing
No Sprites?  No Genlock?  No CopperLists?  No PlayFields?  Then you don't have an Amiga.

[Skippy]

I'll never forget the day when Amiga Heaven started playing up with intermittent 500 errors.

I figured there was a lot of good stuff on this site so I began to archive it, and then the inevitable happened - it died and has been since the early part of this year.

I emailed the webmaster to no avail, but unfortunately, I never completed archiving the site.

This is the address http://www.l8r.net/install/

If you contributed to this site at any time please contact me.

As you can see by visiting:
http://www.amigarealm.com/amiga/amios/ops11.htm
There are at least 2 sections that never made it, and some missing disks in others.

This was one of my main reasons for starting the 'archiving project':
http://www.amigarealm.com/archives/welcome.htm

Also Amiga University http://www.amigau.com has begun a similar project, which is good news.

Skippy

[Weasel]

Very good idea,
When a project is finished or has a major release version it could still be uploaded to aminet.

[System]

When a project is finished or has a major release version it could still be uploaded to aminet.

Well gee, if you're going to give me all this incentive to do this, why should I even fricking bother?

"Thanks for going through all the work of making it incredibly easy to create, moderate, and develop things! Now I can take my files and distribute them from another site.  Your efforts don't really need any incentive to continue or improve but hey ....  I really appreciate your efforts".

Makes perfect sense to me.   :-?

[Weasel]

Maybe i understood you wrong. If i understand correct you want to host a sourgeforge like system on amiga org for develloping.(easy acces for devellopers making changes to source etc.)?
This then has nothing to do with aminet,but, when a project has reached a stable version then imho it could also be released on aminet (the stable, compiled program/driver, not alpha or beta versions).
Also, there are still some people (3 or 4 maybe :-)) without a internet connection or expensive dialup that could then have acces to those programs on aminet cd's
It should be up to whoever is running the project if they release completed programs to aminet too or not.

Dont know if it is a good or bad idea, just a suggestion :-)
Does this make sense ?

[ilgulamc]

i would do something in style with CNet, where people and Amiga.org's staff can grade the different applications and reviews of software can be found together with the software.

Also, Amiga.org could make some money putting advertised applications on the spot light.

[Allen]

Nice idea Wayne...but what is a speadsheet? ;-)

(check Submit a File,  "Applications")

Allen

[Argo]

I think the confusion was with the Amiga.org Dev are being mention in comments about the new Amiga.org Downloads area and its comparison to Aminet.
I think someone got or put out the wrong impression. That once a developer is ready for release 1 of his program that he just packs up shop in the AO dev area and uploads his program to Aminet. Which just seems really odd and I feel an abuse of the dev service. Normally there is a period of continued development with a number of releases. The dev areas, like Sourceforge, have a files are for each project where the release and documention is available. These release are often avalable at other location also at the discresion of the author. The author owns the code and has the rights to put it where ever. The dev areas only attract developers due to the facilities offtered, such as a files area, cvs, bug tracking, forums, mailing list, etc. If you have a problem with the program you downloaded from Aminet you have to wait til the next release to see if the bug was fixed. In an online developent area, there maybe public access to CVS (assuming you can compile code) or daily compiled builds. Not to mention a bug tracker, ala Sourceforge, that lets you see if a peticular bug has been reported and what it's status is. These kind of developement areas, I feel, let the users and developers have a closer interaction than just plain file sites.
Mind you, what I have written is based on what I know of Sourceforge. What the AO dev area may offer I don't know, you'll have to wait or ask Wayne for details.

[Weasel]

That was wat i meant with my comment about releasing to aminet too.(asuming it is like sourceforge)
Thanks for explaining it for people who don't know what sourceforge is.

[SilvrDrgn]

@Allen

Nice idea Wayne...but what is a speadsheet?

Either a freeware spreadsheet application, or an actual spreadsheet file that has something of interest in it.