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Re: New Executive Update
« Reply #44 from previous page: June 25, 2002, 11:02:27 PM »
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It's been pretty well documented AmiGod, in case you missed it.


So what you're basically telling me is that this deal revolves around the SAME A1 card that developers are getting, with a G3 processor and all.

You see, I was hoping that this special revolved around the more recent announcement by Eyetech about the G4s and dual-processor A1s.

This is why I asked.

Personally, I don't want a G3 A1.  Especially with Eyetech having announced the G4s and dual-G4s.

That would be like buying a bare-bones A500 after hearing about the A4kT with an 060.  Why buy the cheapest when you can afford the best.

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Also check Amiga Inc's website for details on OS4.0.


Yup, I've been keeping tabs on everything OS 4.0-related since it was first announced.

Thanks anyways for the heads-up.

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Re: New Executive Update
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2002, 11:21:04 PM »
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Personally, I don't want a G3 A1. Especially with Eyetech having announced the G4s and dual-G4s.


Well you have to walk before you can run. Besides the Eyetech trade in offer sounds decent.
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Re: New Executive Update
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2002, 11:26:01 PM »
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Hyperion have already said numerious times that there was code already there to build on that Amiga Inc had created before they couldnt pay their contractors


When  I asked Ben on a IRC-chat early this year about H&P and
there involvement in OS4 he replied wit something in the line of
"they are doing their share". Somehow that doesn't fit in with facts that
we know now.

The only things that have been done before Hyperion took over was 3rd-
party stuff like RoadShow.

And yes one of the first AInc told everyone in 2000 was that AmigaOS
was dead. And yes H&P wanted to do (minimal) PPC version of 3.9, but
weren't allowed back than.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: New Executive Update
« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2002, 12:12:48 AM »
I dont recall one press conference or exec overview saying that
it was dead in 2000. I recall Fleecy and Bill saying that they
wanted to take the Amiga brand forward to be a new widget
based universe running on top of intent and that "classic" Amiga
products would not be directly supported by them.

This remains true up to a point although they have increased
their support of "classic" to the point of not calling it "classic" any
more with a strong platform direction.
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Re: New Executive Update
« Reply #48 on: June 26, 2002, 12:27:52 AM »
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This remains true up to a point although they have increased their support of "classic" to the point of not calling it "classic" any
more with a strong platform direction.


True, personally I think AmigaInc are starting to see the error of their ways. The A1/OS4.0 is more promising ATM then DE.
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Re: New Executive Update
« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2002, 12:40:50 AM »
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Well you have to walk before you can run. Besides the Eyetech trade in offer sounds decent.


True, it is a good deal, but not to a packrat. :-(

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Re: New Executive Update
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2002, 12:41:59 AM »
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True, personally I think AmigaInc are starting to see the error of their ways. The A1/OS4.0 is more promising ATM then DE.


Hopefully they are... It should have happened sooner though!  The world is simply not ready for a product like DE/AA...

I belive that the "incompatability issue" will continiue to spread in the next few years. Especially if Apple continiues be as successful as the iMac turned to be. Add this to the spreading of PDA's and different Linux/BSD systems, and then start an intensive marketing campaign. Platform independant 3D and sond API's  ( hopefully, Warp3D will have matured by then ) and binary independance? Way to go! Just not quite yet...
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Re: New Executive Update
« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2002, 03:44:43 AM »
Id agree with this whilst there are no killer apps on that platform.

1. Developers are not ready to pay for platform agnostic write once run anywhere mechanisms.

2. Consumers dont give a toss what the OS is or the platform so long they can run their programs.

3. Write once compile everywhere has become pretty much a solved entity.

Whilst I dont think the desktop war is over ( there is still a chance as the resurgance of the Mac has proven ) I do think that DE has had its chance and has unfortunately failed. There is a small chance that a big success will turn this around but the developement community seems to be leaving or gone and the user community has dried up.

Very very sad for what is an excellent technology.

Now I want to see Amigas content brokering architecture ported onto AOS4.x and up ;-)
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