Tao's intent(R) Application Development Kit Available with digital

[Bobsonsirjonny]

Jetracer - dont worry. It was all about confusion :-).

Sorry for posting anonymously - I was in kind of a rush - as my dam machine kept crashing. After reinstalling Windows, I eventually narrowed the problem down to some faulty Ram - I'm a stinking 128mb down now......  I used to have 512 - till a stick went faulty. Now I'm down to a lousy 256.......... :-?

[Chathurawind]

Not only are you a complete moron who thinks he knows something about programming an OS, but you are just plain 'ignant' with respect to what exactly it entails in building an OS.  

If Tao were to go under, Amiga would in fact be dead in the water.  Unlike your silly ass mumbling here:
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If Tao would go broke the next month Amiga could just use the Linux kernel while they create their own / find another similar sollution to hardware abstraction layers and JIT engine. It would take time and be troublesome, but it wouldn't be the end of the world. Tao's bare existance doesn't decide Amiga Incs future.
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Let me guess, you're parents are actually brother and sister too.

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[Chathurawind]

Oh well Digital is f**ked as a decent read - well actually last issue was turgid anyway - its resorted to using bimbos on the front cover. Using sex to sell something is a sign of commercial desperation.

I was thinking about cancelling my sub to Digital after its editorial deteriorated from the technically interesting ( but directionless ) to the pure waffle.

You might as well subscribe to FHM and read the gadgets section.

P A T H E T I C.

[Chathurawind]

Its nice to flame Jetracer eh? Well next time rethink.

If an API is recompile compatible then you effectively have platform independence ( maybe not total architectural independence ). Binary independence is an overblown concept - which is why you can create "native" tools for optimal performance.

Linux + SDL anyone?

If Amiga was to get rid of the middleman layer between it and the host operating system ( in this case Taos excellent Intent/Elate portfolio ) it would require some rework but very little - indeed less than writing their work from scratch.

Also, I recall that there are a number of now quite mature projects on Linux for autocompile from source or from opcode with a revision control strategy built on dep.

I dont think that Intent/Elate is as pivotal in the work that Amiga is doing as others seem to.

Emulation and JIT technologies will always play second fiddle to autorecompile strategies.

So, Jetracer is right - not least because he/she phrased everything in relative terms ;-)

[System]

Are there moderators yet? I just hate the "the sky is falling" post that get posted when people panic beacuse they don't understand the full meaneing of something.

Then move to a fascist country where people are not allowed to speak their mind.  There are no comment moderators on purpose.  Comments are also anonymous on purpose (because you silly bastards are too lazy to log in and there's a bug in the cookie routine).  If it gets out of hand, both go away.  

Like you, it bothers me to see people posting comments out of blatant stupidity and fear.  IF you've noticed though, that stupidity and fear is driven by a lack of information and direction to the community from Amiga Inc than anything else.  That being said, just understand that everyone has an opinion and it might not match yours.  That's what comments and forums ARE FOR.

We are starting to get some volunteers for the forums which are much more level-headed.  We need more though.

Wayne Hunt
Amiga.org

[JetRacer]

> If Tao were to go under, Amiga would in fact be dead in the water.

And why is that? Amiga Inc could even resort to .net if things got real bad and they desperately needed a substitute. The point is that the hardware abstraction layer of modern OS'es (that excludes Win) is so powerfull that you could potentially switch kernel with a relatively small effort. Not entirely unlike making a Linux distribution for a previsuly unsupported platform. I think you're stuck in the "good-old-days". Wake up, it's not 1985 anymore. OS'es doesn't work like classic AOS or Win anymore.

And look everybody: some of us can take critisism. Go hack a PHP-nuke driven newsite instead of blaming me for the OS'es evolution.

Thanks for the support from varius people (allthough I was kinda rude). And I agree with Wayne, he shouldn't act as AO's friendly naybourhood Gestapo representative. Alltough that would have eliminated comment like the one I responded to, but I think everybody is entitled to an opinion, even if that opinion is that I shouldn't be allowed to have one (hmm..?). Anyway, again, my appologies if I offended any of the AO regulars. I wish I had access to free fiber 24h a day so I would watch AO formus like a hawk, unfortunately I don't (fortunate for others).

[JetRacer]

Anonymous: he/she youself!   ;-)

Hehehe!

[JetFireDX]

I wish I better understood the differences between intent and DE. So DE is just intent with a bit more added to it, something like a version of a car with or without a turbo. DE is with intent with an options package? Why have two types? Doesn't that open up competition between DE and intent? With the list of companies supporting intent, is it Amiga's plan to pull them away from intent by offering them a better version with more versatility but primarily the same thing at the core? I am trying to keep up but with so much fighting about this CPU or that hardware, as well as a lack of definitive information from the REAL guys/gals behind it, it is difficult.

[ksk]

Imagine year 86 Amiga1000 with just PC XT features. That's intent. AmigaDE is the A1000 with all too fancy features enabled, someday.

Industry/serious companies choose PC XT and intent, only freaks like Amigans choose all the bells and whistles (like 4096 colors and 4 channel stereo voice or AmigaDE's special APIs, etc.).

It is interesting to see huge amount of companies taking intent on board. It will be a minor step to push AmigaDE on top of that.