Problem installing a second IDE 15GB drive

[cehofer]

I have an Amiga 4000 OS3.9.  I have a 500M SCSI drive with System and Work partitions.  I have a 4G IDE with three more partitions.  I am trying to install a second 15G IDE drive to replace the 4G.  I wanted to create 4 partitions of 3 to 4 Gig each and transfer the data.  However, I can see the drive no problem and create the partitions.  When I reboot, I don't see the drives.  I used HD Toolbox in the begining but I changed to the HD install Tool 6.9 and I was able to format only 2 partitions and I get an error that the 3rd partition is not validated.  The only way I am able to see the first 2 partitions after reboot is to use the mounter tool.  In the HD tool it the "automount" is checked.  I also unchecked the "bootable" checkbox.

I have FFS V45.9 and SCSI.device 43.x.  From what I have read that is good enough.  I have another 4000 with a 40G running OS3.9 and I have 3 partitions on that without a problem.  Is there a number of the HD partitions you can have mounted at one time?  Is there a command to "validate" the new drive?  I got this drive out of an old windows machine.  The drive is good.

[Dragster]

I have FFS V45.9 and SCSI.device 43.x.  From what I have read that is good enough.  I have another 4000 with a 40G running OS3.9 and I have 3 partitions on that without a problem.  Is there a number of the HD partitions you can have mounted at one time?  Is there a command to "validate" the new drive?  I got this drive out of an old windows machine.  The drive is good.

Hi,

If you're running AmigaOS 3.9 with Boing Bag2, you probably need to apply a patch to scsi.device. What version of scsi.device are you using? 43.43? If so, patch it to 43.45 (you can find the patch on aminet), this will solve your problems most likely, and as a recommendation, get rid of FFS and use SFS (it's much better/reliable/faster), you can download it from http://strohmayer.org.

Cheers,

Dragster

[cehofer]

Yes I am running boingbag 2.  I want to say it is 43.43, but I'll have to look at it.  I will upgrade it to 43.45 and let you know.  

Thanks

[Thomas]

I used HD Toolbox in the begining but I changed to the HD install Tool 6.9

You should never do this. HDInstTool might look better than HDToolbox but has one serious bug which makes it unable to handle harddrives formerly edited by HDToolbox. Only use HDInstTool on new harddrives and only if you are sure that you will never use another program.

I can see the drive no problem and create the partitions. When I reboot, I don't see the drives.

Run HDToolbox, click on the first harddrive (the one which was already there, not the new one) and if a requester opens telling you that drives have been added or removed, let it save the changes.

I was able to format only 2 partitions and I get an error that the 3rd partition is not validated.

I doubt that HDInstTool is able to format a partition with scsi.device 43. They were made by different manufacturers which don't like each other. Use Workbench to format the partitions. And always use quick format !!

The only way I am able to see the first 2 partitions after reboot is to use the mounter tool.

See above. The first (previously the only) HDD has the "last drive" flag on which means that partitions of other drives on the same controller are not mounted.

If you're running AmigaOS 3.9 with Boing Bag2, you probably need to apply a patch to scsi.device. What version of scsi.device are you using? 43.43? If so, patch it to 43.45

43.43 is fine for drives up to 128 GB. No patch needed.

Bye,
Thomas

[Dragster]

@cehofer

As Thomas said, don't use anything but HDToolbox to install/partiton your hard drives under OS 3.9. As for the patch, you *probably* will need it as there  is a well documented bug with scsi.device version 43.43. Check this thread for more info:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41536

Cheers,

Dragster

[cehofer]

First, last night I didn't come here to see I had more responses.  Ok, I patched it to 43.45 no problem there.   I have read conflicting things between using HDToolbox and HDInsTool before saying HDInstTools is better and HDToolbox had issues.  I have read before to only use quick format on large drives as well.  Anyway, I did get the "some drives have changed or been added" but  I cancelled that.  I guess if I would have done that, then I would have been able to see my new drive after reboot.  I was able with the mounter to mount, format and copy the contents from one drive to the other.  I removed the first HDD, rebooted and the new partitions are there.  However, WB is acting very slow.  At one point in time I couldn't right click and rename the drives.  I don't know what's up with that.  It was working fine until I added the new drive only.  I had three partitions on the old drive.  So if I had Productivity on the old, I created Productivity1.  After I installed the new drive, I tried to rename Productivity1 to Productivity but WB is acting up now.  I think I am going to start over and only use the HDToolbox. And do as Thomas suggested.

[slayer]

Nod, even using an unprep option wouldn't hurt. It would be treated as a newly installed HD then.