Problem with Debeb and GG486...

[mfilos]

Hi guys, I came accross an issue that I couldn't explain so I need an advise (maybe Michael B. could know better).

I have an A4000D CSPPC with CVPPC, XSurf, Deneb, Indivision 4000, and a GG386 (With ISA VGA+SB plus HardDrive). I run OS3.9 with AfAOS (Kick update+Morelibspace on Deneb flash). Everything was working as intended till I got an GG486 which replaced the GG386.

From the moment I switched the boards I saw some problem at booting to WB (window saying that can't open SCSI device 1). Switching back to my old GG386 --> no problem!
I removed all cards leaving only Indivision (for VGA input) and GG486 booting with floppy of WB3.1 - SUCCESS! and card was working just fine. After putting the cards together I had the same issue again. After removing one card at a time I realized that the problem was Deneb!
- System as is without Deneb works just fine and GG486 works perfectly.
- System as is with Deneb but without GG486 still works perfectly. [Check Early startup pic]
- System with both Deneb and GG486 has issues on boot (Early startup menu isn't right) plus Luciferin doesn't recognise Deneb although Poseidon stack runs just fine (USB stick worked) [Check Early startup pic], [Check Luciferin screenshot]
- System with Deneb and GG386 works perfectly anyway. [Check Early startup menu]

I thought that maybe the flash modules of Poseidon or Morelibspace or the upgraded kick could make some issues so I removed all flash content with Luciferin in order to check out... Still problem at boot and the same Early startup screen with NO GG486...

Can u point anything that I can do in order for my GG486 to appear on the Early startup menu = working as intended along with Deneb?

[HammerD]

@mfilos

Are you running the Deneb in DMA mode? Try PIO I guess...see if it makes a difference.

[mfilos]

Yeah it's in DMA mode... I can gief it a try but still makes me wonder why it doesnt' have any issues on my GG386 lol... Anyway

[HammerD]

Dunnno..but it's doubtful they tested the deneb against that board

[HammerD]

ps - you should put TLSFmem in your deneb flash...nice speedup!

[mfilos]

Some more info I gathered through WhichAmiga (by Piru):

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- 4623/23   @$00E90000  64k --> Indivision 4000
- 3643/16   @$40000000  16M --> Deneb
- 3643/19   @$00EA0000  64k --> Deneb
- 8512/100  @$00F01060 128k --> Cyberstorm PPC
- 8512/101  blah blah    4k --> Phase 5
- 8512/101  blah blah    4k --> Phase 5
- 8512/101  blah blah    4k --> Phase 5
- 8512/101  blah blah    4k --> Phase 5
- 8512/101  blah blah    4k --> Phase 5
- 8512/101  blah blah    4k --> Phase 5
if GG386 is on:
- 8215/7    @$00200000   1M --> Vortex Goldengate 386
if GG486 is on:
- 8215/9    @$00200000   1M --> Vortex Goldengate 486
I don't see any address conflict... but then again... I know Jack Schitt  

I think Michael B. can gief some advices here
/beg

[platon42]

Hi guys, I came accross an issue that I couldn't explain so I need an advise (maybe Michael B. could know better).

- System with both Deneb and GG486 has issues on boot (Early startup menu isn't right) plus Luciferin doesn't recognise Deneb although Poseidon stack runs just fine (USB stick worked)
I thought that maybe the flash modules of Poseidon or Morelibspace or the upgraded kick could make some issues so I removed all flash content with Luciferin in order to check out... Still problem at boot and the same Early startup screen with NO GG486...

Can u point anything that I can do in order for my GG486 to appear on the Early startup menu = working as intended along with Deneb?

Looks to me as if the Config-In/Out mechanism is borken on either card. Did you try changing the *order* of the cards? In any case, this is really weird and you should contact Michael Böhmer directly.

[mboehmer_e3b]

Some more info I gathered through WhichAmiga (by Piru):

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- 4623/23   @$00E90000  64k --> Indivision 4000
- 3643/16   @$40000000  16M --> Deneb
- 3643/19   @$00EA0000  64k --> Deneb
- 8512/100  @$00F01060 128k --> Cyberstorm PPC
- 8512/101  blah blah    4k --> Phase 5
- 8512/101  blah blah    4k --> Phase 5
- 8512/101  blah blah    4k --> Phase 5
- 8512/101  blah blah    4k --> Phase 5
- 8512/101  blah blah    4k --> Phase 5
- 8512/101  blah blah    4k --> Phase 5
if GG386 is on:
- 8215/7    @$00200000   1M --> Vortex Goldengate 386
if GG486 is on:
- 8215/9    @$00200000   1M --> Vortex Goldengate 486

/beg

So, just checked. There is something WRONG in your system. The 8512/101 entry is listed as "GREX 1200" - which is not available in your system.
Please start your system:
- without DENEB, with 386, without 486
- without DENEB, without 386, with 486
- with DENEB, without 386, without 486
and send me the showconfig / listexp / WhichAmiga outputs (please use ASCII, I prefer listexp) both by mail (mboehmer@e3b.de) and here in the forum for the others.

Even if the 8512/101 entry is valid, it should be there only *once*.

Michael

[mfilos]

Thanks a lot for the info Michael. When I'll be home I'll install ListExp and send you the export with mail in all circumstances that you asked.

Dunno if the CVisionPPC (that is installed on same expansion port as Grex 4000) inputs all these lines (Don't have any other Phase5 products than CSPPC and CVPPC anyway)

[mfilos]

Ok Michael you've got mail... Just for info I paste the exports from ListExp here also...

- without DENEB, with 386, without 486

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** HARDWARE **

System:  Amiga 4000
CPU:     68060/50 MHz (Rev 1), FPU=68060/50 MHz, MMU=68060
PowerPC: None/0 MHz
Chipset: AGA (RAMSEY F, GARY Normal, CHUNKY None) VBR=0x080C5208
AmigaOS: Bad OS (V0.16980, SetPatch V44.38)   Exec V46.0   Workbench V45.3
Support: GraphicOS: CyberGraphX 3, AudioOS: AHI
Clock:   Power 50 Hz, VBlank 50 Hz, E-Clock 709379 Hz

Memory:›30m         ›31m   CHIP›30m ›31m   FAST›30m ›31m  TOTAL›30m ›31mROM = 512.0KB›30m   ›31mSLOW = 0
›30m        ›31m  PLAIN›30m ›31m ~2.0MB›30m ›31m143.5MB›30m ›31m~145.5MB
›30m        ›31mVIRTUAL›30m ›31m      0›30m ›31m      0›30m ›31m      0
›30m        ›31m  TOTAL›30m ›31m ~2.0MB›30m ›31m143.5MB›30m ›31m~145.5MB


** EXPANSIONS **

Nr ID      Address  Size Manufacturer         Product
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 1 1212.17 00E90000  64K Individual Computers xsurf_atapi.device -?-
 2 2017.07 00200000   1M Vortex               Golden Gate 80386SX PC bridge
 3 2140.64 00F01060 128K Phase 5              CyberStorm '060 MK-III accelerator SCSI host adapter
 4 2140.65 FFFE0000   4K Phase 5              #101 (unknown)
 5 2140.65 FFFA0000  64K Phase 5              #101 (unknown)
 6 2140.65 FFFC0000 128K Phase 5              #101 (unknown)
 7 2140.65 E0000000   8M Phase 5              #101 (unknown)
 8 2140.65 E0800000   8M Phase 5              #101 (unknown)
 9 2140.65 E1000000 128K Phase 5              #101 (unknown)


- without DENEB, without 386, with 486

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** HARDWARE **

System:  Amiga 4000
CPU:     68060/50 MHz (Rev 1), FPU=68060/50 MHz, MMU=68060
PowerPC: None/0 MHz
Chipset: AGA (RAMSEY F, GARY Normal, CHUNKY None) VBR=0x080C5208
AmigaOS: Bad OS (V0.16980, SetPatch V44.38)   Exec V46.0   Workbench V45.3
Support: GraphicOS: CyberGraphX 3, AudioOS: AHI
Clock:   Power 50 Hz, VBlank 50 Hz, E-Clock 709379 Hz

Memory:›30m         ›31m   CHIP›30m ›31m   FAST›30m ›31m  TOTAL›30m ›31mROM = 512.0KB›30m   ›31mSLOW = 0
›30m        ›31m  PLAIN›30m ›31m ~2.0MB›30m ›31m143.5MB›30m ›31m~145.5MB
›30m        ›31mVIRTUAL›30m ›31m      0›30m ›31m      0›30m ›31m      0
›30m        ›31m  TOTAL›30m ›31m ~2.0MB›30m ›31m143.5MB›30m ›31m~145.5MB


** EXPANSIONS **

Nr ID      Address  Size Manufacturer         Product
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 1 1212.17 00E90000  64K Individual Computers xsurf_atapi.device -?-
 2 2017.09 00200000   1M Vortex               Golden Gate 80486 PC bridge
 3 2140.64 00F01060 128K Phase 5              CyberStorm '060 MK-III accelerator SCSI host adapter
 4 2140.65 FFFE0000   4K Phase 5              #101 (unknown)
 5 2140.65 FFFA0000  64K Phase 5              #101 (unknown)
 6 2140.65 FFFC0000 128K Phase 5              #101 (unknown)
 7 2140.65 E0000000   8M Phase 5              #101 (unknown)
 8 2140.65 E0800000   8M Phase 5              #101 (unknown)
 9 2140.65 E1000000 128K Phase 5              #101 (unknown)


- with DENEB, without 386, without 486

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** HARDWARE **

System:  Amiga 4000
CPU:     68060/50 MHz (Rev 1), FPU=68060/50 MHz, MMU=68060
PowerPC: None/0 MHz
Chipset: AGA (RAMSEY F, GARY Normal, CHUNKY None) VBR=0x080C5D78
AmigaOS: Bad OS (V0.16980, SetPatch V44.38)   Exec V46.0   Workbench V45.3
Support: GraphicOS: CyberGraphX 3, AudioOS: AHI
Clock:   Power 50 Hz, VBlank 50 Hz, E-Clock 709379 Hz

Memory:›30m         ›31m   CHIP›30m ›31m   FAST›30m ›31m  TOTAL›30m ›31mROM = 512.0KB›30m   ›31mSLOW = 0
›30m        ›31m  PLAIN›30m ›31m ~2.0MB›30m ›31m143.5MB›30m ›31m~145.5MB
›30m        ›31mVIRTUAL›30m ›31m      0›30m ›31m      0›30m ›31m      0
›30m        ›31m  TOTAL›30m ›31m ~2.0MB›30m ›31m143.5MB›30m ›31m~145.5MB


** EXPANSIONS **

Nr ID      Address  Size Manufacturer         Product
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 1 1212.17 00E90000  64K Individual Computers xsurf_atapi.device -?-
 2 0E3B.10 40000000  16M #3643                denebdmausb.device -?-
 3 0E3B.13 00EA0000  64K #3643                #19 (unknown)
 4 2140.64 00F01060 128K Phase 5              CyberStorm '060 MK-III accelerator SCSI host adapter
 5 2140.65 FFFE0000   4K Phase 5              #101 (unknown)
 6 2140.65 FFFA0000  64K Phase 5              #101 (unknown)
 7 2140.65 FFFC0000 128K Phase 5              #101 (unknown)
 8 2140.65 E0000000   8M Phase 5              #101 (unknown)
 9 2140.65 E0800000   8M Phase 5              #101 (unknown)
10 2140.65 E1000000 128K Phase 5              #101 (unknown)