SAM and other new hardware - missing modern graphics card slots?

[niklasni1]

takemehomegrandma wrote:

billt wrote:

Regarding the ULI 1575, that one is being used in Freescale's "HPCN 8641/8640 Development board".

I'm curious how to get the chip or if they bought some some time ago and have them on a shelf somewhere. And US$5000!!! Yikes! Oh, another distributor only charges US$4000. Much better.

If I recall correctly, Freescale sold it for some $1500 for a limited period of a few months when the 8640 was launched. Won't help you now, though... ;-)

Which would be a much more accurate approximate of what the boards themselves cost (though probably still inflated). The 5000 USD will include some form of technical support for developers, I think...

[takemehomegrandma]

niklasni1 wrote:

If I recall correctly, Freescale sold it for some $1500 for a limited period of a few months when the 8640 was launched. Won't help you now, though... ;-)

Which would be a much more accurate approximate of what the boards themselves cost (though probably still inflated). The 5000 USD will include some form of technical support for developers, I think...[/quote]

I think the entire development package was included in that price. It was a limited time promotion offer though.

[takemehomegrandma]

@billt

The 8377E is an interesting processor in the Sam/Efika range. It has USB2 controller, dual gigabit ethernet controllers, dual SATA2 controllers, a traditional PCI 2.3 controller, and two PCI-E (used either as 2-x1 or 1-x2).

[yakumo9275]

would be interesting to see how that chip (8377e) handled with saturated dual gigabit ethernet.. most of these SOC's really struggle on the bandwidth front. there is a lot of bandwidth hungry connections hanging off that single chip...

and the two ethernet lanes are shared on the two PCI x1 express lanes.

[takemehomegrandma]

@yakumo9275

Of course I don't think one should expect miracles performance wise. The point is *low cost*, just like the CPU's in the Sam and Efika, and I think it could be a strong candidate there!

There are numerous other CPU's mentioned in this thread already that will offer better performance and better features, but at a higher cost of course! ;-)

[Tripitaka]

Hans_ wrote:

Unfortunately NVidia won't give anyone the developer doumentation required to write drivers, so you won't be able to use it in an Amiga. You can get Radeon graphics cards as plain PCI (I have a Radeon HD 2400 pro PCI card myself) and NVidia cards too.

Do you really think that they should waste their time developing hardware with AGP when PCI-Express chipsets are available? I certainly don't.

Hans

 :lol:  hell no! I got an SLI rig for a PC and I'm deeply dismayed that I can't have an amiga even close in terms of power graphics. I was just making comment on the "AGP is dead" posts. AGP cards are available at Dabs and Novatech and I don't see any Amigas on their websites. Does that count as dead yet?   :-D

[takemehomegrandma]

Tripitaka wrote:

:lol:  hell no! I got an SLI rig for a PC and I'm deeply dismayed that I can't have an amiga even close in terms of power graphics.

What would you do with it? We haven't got anything like Direct3D 10 that would make full use of it, not to mention the lack of 2008 console level hit games...

[darksun9210]

sorry i just had to say this.... :-D

Also, am I correct in thinking that you cannot plug an AGP card in a PCI slot?

you can if you push hard enough. i've had to see and deal with the results of people installing their own graphics cards, the damage from that, a PCI card in an AGP slot, and also PCI in PCI express.
i especially liked the "it showed me a screen the first time i dun turned it on" yeah right. what of? wrything electical agony? just before something went bang and the smoke came out? :lol:

its like there are some people that just shouldn't be allowed near electronics  ;-)

[recidivist]

 Either I am overlooking the obvious or something,but don't all the Amiga-type machines since the 1200/4000 use a standard PC graphics rather than special C= ICs?

 Is the lack of AmigaOS 4.0/4.1 for efika only licensing permission?

[Tripitaka]

takemehomegrandma wrote:
We haven't got anything like Direct3D 10 that would make full use of it, not to mention the lack of 2008 console level hit games...

chicken - egg - chicken - egg etc....

let's eat :popcorn:  :popcorn:  :popcorn: - while we all wait for something to happen.

[ZeBeeDee]

Tripitaka wrote:

let's eat :popcorn:  :popcorn:  :popcorn: - while we all wait for something to happen.

I think we might need a bit more popcorn ... just to be on the safe side  :-)