Which device for IDE?

[NovaCoder]

Call me stupid (others often do) but why does it appear that my CF IDE HD is using a SCSI driver?  Shouldn't it be using an IDE driver instead?  I've also noticed all this stuff in my startup sequence about running a SCSI update...can I get rid of all this?

I'm running OS3.9 BB2 on a 1200 with a Mk4 1230 and I'm trying to get my IDEExpress working properly.  If I installed the supplied software it just hangs on startup (you have to comment out the IDEFIX command from the startup sequence to get it working).  I'm not sure why it keeps hanging, maybe it's because I don't have a CDROM and it's trying to find one?

It's currently showing 3.3 mb/s in Sysinfo (Sandisk Ultra 2 4GB), does that mean it's configured properly?

Thanks :-D

[Retro_71]

Where in the Startup are you putting IDEFIX? it has to be at the begining.
Also how are you attacking your adapter? Make sure it doesn't move around i use a hot glue gun.

Here is an example of my startup_sequence

; STARTUP-SEQUENCE BEGIN
set echo on

IF EXISTS SYS:C/IDEFIX
C:IDEFIX
ENDIF

C:SetPatch Quiet

If EXISTS C:NSDPatch
C:NSDPatch Quiet
ENDIF

C:Version >NIL:
C:AddBuffers >NIL: DF0: 15
FailAt 21

[NovaCoder]

Retro_71 wrote:
Where in the Startup are you putting IDEFIX? it has to be at the begining.
Also how are you attacking your adapter? Make sure it doesn't move around i use a hot glue gun.

Here is an example of my startup_sequence

Are you running OS 3.9 and is that your complete sequence?

What's your setup and what kind of transfer speed are you getting?

Thanks

[Retro_71]

I am running os 3.9 (but this is the modified startup-sequence on the 3.1 install disk i have had to modify the disk itself and remove and add programs).
It is not the whole startup sequence.. that is quite long.
Until my ide express went dead (waiting on a replacement from Amigakit) it was much faster then onboard sry but i never did do a bench test, but compared to on board you can notice the difference. I have a Cobra 030 board with 32MB Ram, and a 20GB HDD and a Liteon CDRW.

If you want my startup sequence i can pm it to you. Just Pm me

[Piru]

@NovaCoder

but why does it appear that my CF IDE HD is using a SCSI driver?

Legacy driver naming reasons. It's really an IDE driver.

[NovaCoder]

Piru wrote:
@NovaCoder

but why does it appear that my CF IDE HD is using a SCSI driver?

Legacy driver naming reasons. It's really an IDE driver.

Thanks, I thought it would be something like that...very confusing  :-?

Are the 'real' SCSI drivers named in the same way?

[Lemmink]

All drivers for all onboard controllers are called scsi.device (or 2nd.scsi.device when two are present like with the A4000T)

HDToolbox and the HDPrep Programm that were introduced with OS 2.0x have scsi.device set as default. While the first regular onboard controller on the A3000 (and the A2000 cardversion A2091) were actual SCSI controllers the name stayed when Commodore switched to IDE for A4000/A1200/A600
That way there was no need to change the default scsi.device setting and you could have one set of OS disks for all machines (A4000T is a different story)

[NovaCoder]

Cool.

So do I really need that 'update scsi driver' stuff in my startup sequence?  I think that IDEFIX contains it's own updated driver anyway so I don't want to override it.

[Lemmink]

Those two do not like each other. Actually when Installing OS 3.5 / 3.9 you are asked if you do have a 4-way adapter. If you say yes the scsi.device patch is skiped from the ROM update.

[NovaCoder]

Lemmink wrote:
Those two do not like each other. Actually when Installing OS 3.5 / 3.9 you are asked if you do have a 4-way adapter. If you say yes the scsi.device patch is skiped from the ROM update.

That's interesting...maybe I should reinstall 3.9 (again!).

I tried again last night and even with the IDEFIX command at the top of the startup sequence + the 'skip scsi updates patch specified at the bottom'...it STILL hangs on startup.  Also the IDEFIX install disk hangs the system if I let it run through to the end  :-(

Out of interest, what command(s) in the startup sequence applies the OS 3.9 ROM patches?

[rkauer]

 Setpatch.

[Damion]

NovaCoder wrote:

I'm running OS3.9 BB2 on a 1200 with a Mk4 1230 and I'm trying to get my IDEExpress working properly.  If I installed the supplied software it just hangs on startup (you have to comment out the IDEFIX command from the startup sequence to get it working).  I'm not sure why it keeps hanging, maybe it's because I don't have a CDROM and it's trying to find one?

Just an FYI, but I was never able to use the idefix command with my Express adapter and CF cards (Sandisk cards here as well), though I do recall it working fine with my actual laptop drives. The system becomes unusable immediately after executing idefix.

It's currently showing 3.3 mb/s in Sysinfo (Sandisk Ultra 2 4GB), does that mean it's configured properly?

Probably - really depends on your accelerator card and your software configuration. 5 MB/sec should be possible with some '030 cards (cheesy screenshot from my overclocked Apollo '060 card). In my case, using the "speedyide" patch from the Blizkick archive increased the SysInfo score by about 1 MB/sec.

[NovaCoder]

-D- wrote:

Just an FYI, but I was never able to use the idefix command with my Express adapter and CF cards (Sandisk cards here as well), though I do recall it working fine with my actual laptop drives. The system becomes unusable immediately after executing idefix.

Thanks for the info.  I was wondering if it was a CF related as most of the software on the driver floppy seems to be made for 'real' HD's.  Has anyone got it working with a CF and if so which CF did you use?

How about a CF friendly update Jens  :-D