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What was Commodore's biggest mistake?
« on: August 17, 2003, 10:58:38 AM »
Hello!
In my opinion, Commodore's biggest mistake was NOT ALLOWING CLONES! What does everybody else think?
I have a a3000+ in a tower with a 604e PPC card, usb 2.0 and Mediator.(68060 @66mhz)
 

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Re: What was Commodore's biggest mistake?
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2003, 11:04:08 AM »
Have we not had this thread already? :crazy:
 

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Re: What was Commodore's biggest mistake?
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2003, 11:04:50 AM »
Giving their PC line more priority than the Amiga line.
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Re: What was Commodore's biggest mistake?
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2003, 11:07:53 AM »
They put AGA in 1200 whnr they had AGA2, they put 020 in 1200 when they had 030-040. They don't seel amiga with standad cd drive. 10000000 amiga power prototype never seen the light like Phoenix, dual 060 with pci slots.

ALL MARKETING MOVES OF COMMODORE TOTALLY SUCKS.
 

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Re: What was Commodore's biggest mistake?
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2003, 11:12:22 AM »
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They put AGA in 1200 whnr they had AGA2, they put 020 in 1200 when they had 030-040. They don't seel amiga with standad cd drive. 10000000 amiga power prototype never seen the light like Phoenix, dual 060 with pci slots.


I'm not sure if any of these were their biggest mistake, but they were all bad decisions and contributed to the slippery slope.
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Re: What was Commodore's biggest mistake?
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2003, 11:19:23 AM »
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iamaboringperson wrote:
Here they is:

Worst of the Worst Think Comodore has done.
In your opinion which was the best and the worst thing that Commodore did to the Amiga?

HEY! and look what else i found :lol:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1603:lol:


And here are the conclusions:
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Yeah same here... I never EVER saw a single Amiga commercial in my life... Though the Amiga was very popular where i live, nearly all my friends had one.... Really odd isnt it?

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Worst thing Commodore ever did (too many of them picking two):

Releasing the A500 because they couldn't market the A1000 as a business machine. This was because they had all these commodore 64 home computer games dealers that didn't know how to sell a video/productivity machine.

The Amiga dealer program originally (like the macintosh) was not availalble to "C=64 dealers" and you had to have special certification as a business dealer.

2nd Worse decision: Not releasing the A3500 which was an A3000 with the AA chipset..

Best Decisions:

Releasing the Amiga 3000UX. Even the great University of Michigan saw these machines and liked them as cheap alternatives to sun boxes (too bad they didn't donate any, like sun did so sun got the contract).

Releasing AmigaVision: the first authorware like visual programming language for integrated video/computer software..
 

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Re: What was Commodore's biggest mistake?
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2003, 11:43:18 AM »
Christ,where to start?  letting the A500 run for too long. The A1200 should have come out when the 500+ did. Not giving the A1200 fast ram, not using a socket for the processor. Not tweeking the case to allow a 3.5 inch HD. Not spending a few extra dollars on a 28mhz 020 (combined with fast ram would have made the base A1200 4x faster). Not finishing AAA, releasing the A600. Put their PC interests ahead of the Amiga. Not putting Akiko in the A1200. Not marketing the CDTV as an Amiga. the list goes on and on....
 

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Re: What was Commodore's biggest mistake?
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2003, 11:57:38 AM »
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Christ,where to start?  letting the A500 run for too long. The A1200 should have come out when the 500+ did. Not giving the A1200 fast ram, not using a socket for the processor. Not tweeking the case to allow a 3.5 inch HD. Not spending a few extra dollars on a 28mhz 020 (combined with fast ram would have made the base A1200 4x faster). Not finishing AAA, releasing the A600. Put their PC interests ahead of the Amiga. Not putting Akiko in the A1200. Not marketing the CDTV as an Amiga. the list goes on and on....

 :-o ... not giving the 1200 30bit color, not giving it DVD capability, not giving it dual 060's as standard, not putting in 6 AGP slots, not turning it into a cray supercomputer, not giving the 1200 macintosh compatability, not giving the 1200 windows compatability, not giving it acorn compatability, not making its keys light up, not making the 1200 from transparent & light blue plastic, not giving it a 1024 bit wide bus, not giving it 8G of DDR RAM

the list of expensive additions could go on... :crazy:
 

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Re: What was Commodore's biggest mistake?
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2003, 12:09:23 PM »
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the list of expensive additions could go on...


I thought he was listing inexpensive additions, and I happen to agree that underspeccing the A1200 was a bad mistake. It hamstrung many commercial developers for the next few years due to the pressure of having to develop for the lowest common denominator. Many of these soon left rather than take a risk in developing for higher specs and facing uncertain sales.

As it was the A1200 came out at least a couple of years too late at those specifications, and the Amiga never stopped losing ground from that day on.
Bill Hoggett