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Re: pls tell me about 'imagine' 3d software
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 05, 2010, 12:23:58 PM »
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This site, CAD Technologies, has an archive page with downloads of TurboSilver, Imagine V1, Imagine V2.9, Imagine V3.0 and Imagine 4.0.
The link... http://www.imaginefa.com/


Some of the renders on that site are absolutely stunning:
http://www.imaginefa.com/gallery.shtml

I wonder if they were really done in Imagine for Amiga.  If so, I'm VERY impressed at what this "old" piece of software can do....it seems to me the quality of images still hold up today.
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Re: pls tell me about 'imagine' 3d software
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2010, 12:30:08 PM »
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Grab yourself a copy of Steve Worleys "understanding imagine"

I own 3 copies myself LOL... this book together with the manual will make learning how to use Imagine alot of fun...


This book doesn't seem to be available for purchase anywhere.  Amazon.ca and Amazon.com don't list it, and a general Google search pulls up news about the book, but no retailers.  Want to sell or trade a copy?
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Re: pls tell me about 'imagine' 3d software
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2010, 01:11:02 PM »
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Some of the renders on that site are absolutely stunning:
http://www.imaginefa.com/gallery.shtml
 
I wonder if they were really done in Imagine for Amiga. If so, I'm VERY impressed at what this "old" piece of software can do....it seems to me the quality of images still hold up today.

 
No way were some of them done on the amiga, far too hires and unless imagine 4 up to current standards or a lot of photoshop donw aftwards ?
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Re: pls tell me about 'imagine' 3d software
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2010, 01:37:37 PM »
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No way were some of them done on the amiga, far too hires and unless imagine 4 up to current standards or a lot of photoshop donw aftwards ?


They look perfectly achievable to me.  Imagine is not limited to screen resolution.  The user specifies width, height, and aspect ratio.  Also, the quality of Imagine's output is very good.  There's a good chance that no retouching was necessary.
 

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Re: pls tell me about 'imagine' 3d software
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2010, 05:11:04 PM »
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No way were some of them done on the amiga, far too hires and unless imagine 4 up to current standards or a lot of photoshop donw aftwards ?


Check out these great tutorials from Imagine artist Lahl. She is able to achieve the most "state of the art" image quality with the software. http://members.iinet.net.au/~multispud22/lahl/tutorials/tutorials.htm

The problem with Imagine isn't the raytrace renderer; it's the software's workflow that is hopelessly obsolete vs. contemporary 3d applications.
 

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Re: pls tell me about 'imagine' 3d software
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2010, 06:26:37 PM »
Dear Amigans:

I have a super PC system with complete lightwave and is amazing for animation.
However...I got a little extra time to kill...and I would love to make animation
on my old amiga just for fun. I am already using aladdin 4d (on amiga) and I just acquired Imagine with its manuals/disks. I am looking forward to use Imagine just for fun
and see how far I can push my amiga for 3d animation. This is just for fun...I want to make new animations on my amiga.
I could apply all I learned from lightwave...then see if I can make great Imagine renders.
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Re: pls tell me about 'imagine' 3d software
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2010, 12:01:28 AM »
Good luck! It will be a challenge to deal with the slow rendering speeds of Imagine on the Amiga vs. what you're accustomed to seeing with Lightwave on a modern pc.  

You can find some Imagine tutorial videos I produced back in the early 90's at Imagine3d.org, along with some great documentation like the I-Files Manual.
 

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Re: pls tell me about 'imagine' 3d software
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2010, 02:00:02 PM »
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Check out these great tutorials from Imagine artist Lahl. She is able to achieve the most "state of the art" image quality with the software. http://members.iinet.net.au/~multispud22/lahl/tutorials/tutorials.htm

The problem with Imagine isn't the raytrace renderer; it's the software's workflow that is hopelessly obsolete vs. contemporary 3d applications.


So I guess that most of the best demo pictures on the developer for the developer of Imagine on the Amiga (link above in this thread) weren't done on the Amiga version after all.  Lahl did them, and while she used to work with Amiga, the examples of her work used on the Amiga Imagine site were rendered in version 2.0 for Windows.
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Re: pls tell me about 'imagine' 3d software
« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2010, 03:14:48 PM »
The Impulse rendering engine in both the Amiga and PC versions of Imagine were the same. I don't know whether the renderer was updated in later releases of Imagine for the Amiga. You will need to check the release logs over at CAD Technologies (http://www.imaginefa.com)

You can definitely achieve the same results as Lahl describes with the Amiga version, but it will take you longer to render each frame.
 

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Re: pls tell me about 'imagine' 3d software
« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2010, 09:23:40 AM »
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I bought Aladdin4d and it's very powerful and runs well on the lastest Amiga OS (with RTG, etc).  The interface is a little "clinical"
About Aladdin4D:
1. If I buy it, it will come to me with manuals?
2. Can I model with (meta)nurbs/SDS modelling? Just like LightWave when I hit TAB key?
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Re: pls tell me about 'imagine' 3d software
« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2010, 12:38:49 PM »
Dear Friend:

1- yes, aladdin 4d should come with its manual...and also a cd version to use with emulation on pc WINUAE, which is very good.

2- No, aladdin does not have metanurbs (tab key), but a new version - v6 - is supposed to come out very soon and it will probably be good.

Aladdin is great 3d software for amiga and also for use with WINUAE.

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Re: pls tell me about 'imagine' 3d software
« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2010, 12:46:43 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9H6Vv7KyMg

Modelled and scened on my Amiga 4000. All graphics in the games you see are rendered in Imagine too. If you're wondering why I'm still using Imagine then the answer is simple: "I don't want to spend time to learn another program as I can do so much already with it, including generating custom textures and stuff" :-)

(rendering itself is done using WinUAE on my PC though)
 

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Re: pls tell me about 'imagine' 3d software
« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2010, 12:50:52 PM »
And this is one of two developed 3d software for Amiga. I try to find some tutorials, but there is nothing on web and Aladdin4D forum is dead...
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