machinehead wrote:
But name 5 applications that make use of AGA
1017 :
http://aminet.net/demo/aga I love AGA demo's, dont you?
10 decent games?
Aladdin
Alien Breed 3D (/II)
Chaos Engine II
Liberation: Captive II
Brian the Lion
Second Samurai
Speris Legacy
Super Stardust
Street Racer
T-Zero
The Misadventures of Flink
I am sure there are more, but these were all I could think of in 5 mins. But I agree with you, there are not that many compared with ECS games.
I didn't ask how old the Toast Scan was, I just said it is complex and I stand by that remark.
You are right, it is too complex for the ordinary user to replicate.
And VERY VERY old? You mean like an Amiga 1200?
I believe that technology used in the ToastScan pre-dates the A1200. It is not an original design, it was bought from another company, where it was sold under a different name (EZ-VGA, Indivision, ToastScan etc. all the same thing)
How would I interface this "$3.00" chip to the RBG output of an Amiga 2000?
You'd have to make a PCB.
The wiring is ultra simple, 6 wires from the Amiga video port (Red, Green, Blue, HSync, VSync, +12v, Gnd). RGB analog are wired to the AL875 and 15-bits digital output from AL875 are wired to AL250A along with HSync, VSync. You'd need some power regulators to convert the +12v into the supply required, also some pull up resistors.
It's probably beyond the home user, perhaps 2hrs of research and 5hrs of CAD to create the PCB but you'd get a reference design from the vendor for ideas.
This is exactly what Roy Justus did, he developed his own, he one that sold for $48.
How come no one is ripping these out and selling them on Ebay?
I think "ripping them out" wouldnt be cost effective ;-)
BUT you can buy them direct from the manufacturer in low numbers. What do you think is inside the CM397 you bought? Yup, probably the same chips that are in a lot of LCD-TV's, the Averlogic AL875 + AL250A chips.
If I could make this work on an Amiga, you can Bet Your Ass that it would cost you more than $3.00.
At a guess, I would expect you could make them for a cost of about $500 for the first and $15 for each after. You'd have a MOQ (Minimum order quantity) of about 200. But they would still not give correct colour representation in AGA modes.
Isn't that the reason the market is flooded with scan doublers for the Amiga? :shrug:
The market isnt flooded because there isnt one. At least not a big enough one to warrant the time and energy required to research, design and manufacture (and deal with all the associated headaches). You might sell 200, make a profit of $30 on each. A huge profit of $6k not worth the effort.
Please contact Software Hut and tell them to take down the Pre-Order Toast Scan page.
Soft-Hut never update their webpage, they never do. Even after they were found selling pirate software in 2000.
http://www.softhut.com/cgi-bin/test/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=catalog/software/entertainment/ambermoon.html&cart_id=4870038_84978I've spoken to Jens Schoenfeld since this was posted on Soft-Hut and he said that he wasnt working on a replacement Toastscan but was concentrating all his efforts on Clone-A. That's not to say he hasnt changed his mind.
And despite your negitivity, I will post the results so that others may benefit if they so choose.
No negativity intended, just plain facts. This subject, and this exact scandoubler has been discussed before on this forum. If you get the Cypress CM397 CGA to VGA adapter you will not get correct representation of colours in AGA modes, simple as that.
