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amithlon local boot (without requiring CD)
« on: July 10, 2003, 07:33:00 AM »
I realize this has probably been discussed at length when the Amithlon product debuted (and then was effectively forced off the market, unfortunately later), but I just fired back up my PC/Amithlon setup and wanna make it 'bootable' without the CD - there was an obscure way to do it by making a local linux boot partition, correct?  Has anyone done it lately/ever?

thanks for any help you can provide.

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Re: amithlon local boot (without requiring CD)
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2003, 08:14:37 AM »
I wouldn't say it's obscure.. The boot process is identical to any other Linux boot.. :-) Loads of documentation on the web for anyone who cares to use google.

The partition doesn't necessarily have to be an ext2 partition, you can use fat/fat32 if you like.

Basically, you need to check the root dir of the CD to get the configuration file for the bootloader. (the info used to be on amithlon.net, but I don't know if it's there any more).

Then depending on what OS you're running, you can use a dos based Linux launcher (If you have Win9x), or you can use Lilo or Grub.

If you're greeted with NTLOADER, you can always make that boot into lilo or DOS and continue from there. Again, something like nt boot menu and linux in google might help. (those keywords off the top of my head)

Lilo and Grub need at least some kind of Linux to use them - you can most probably find one floppy Linux distros that have the lilo binary on them.. The config file is pretty straight forward if you  read the manual for lilo..

By far the easiest way for someone with little Linux experience is to use MS-DOS (or freedos or some other DOS-alike) to boot Amithlon using loadlin.

My page might gives a few hints on the DOS route, but the instructions aren't necessarily good enough if you don't have an idea about loadlin or DOS or making DOS coexist on the same disk with another OS. :-(
 

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Re: amithlon local boot (without requiring CD)
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2003, 07:46:39 PM »
I've set up GRUB or the older bootloader before but only through the basic novice RedHat setup, which probably doesn't count :)

I had heard there was a list of steps to follow for making amithlon specifically be able to boot off the hard  drive but as you cannot boot directly into Linux off the small kernel included with Amithlon (or if you can, I have no idea how), and, given that my hd has NO linux nor winblows partitions on it ( I basically booted off the amithlon CD, then when in AmigaOS partitioned the drive that way, so it only has AmigaOS partitions now - I can blow these away if I have to, of course) I'm not sure how you'd use FDisk or something similar to set things up that way and if it would even work.

Basically I just need the list of steps to follow - I'm not convinced a general linux bootloader would work because I'm sure the current dists. of Linux are probably newer than the version of Linux included with Amithlon, plus, I have no idea what version of Linux that even is.....?

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Re: amithlon local boot (without requiring CD)
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2003, 09:34:52 PM »
There are some intructions over at amigabest.com.  The link should be:

http://users.chello.be/cr29954/english/boot_hd.htm

That might be what you're looking for.

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Re: amithlon local boot (without requiring CD)
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2003, 07:03:23 AM »
excellent, smithers!  this worked.  basically I:

1) put in a blank 3GB IDE drive and installed Redhat on it (after messing with freedos and a basic RH boot floppy that can't do anything without the CD anyway :)

2) slapped the Amithlon HD back in the machine on the other IDE channel, and rebooted into RH again

3) followed Bernd's instructions on copying the .gz files onto the RH boot dir so GRUB would see them, edited the boot list file;

4) took out the Amithlon CD, rebooted again, selected the 'amithlon' OS in the menu and voila, here I am (a few config changes later) on the machine, using Miami/Ibrowse to post this note.  

thanks for the help!  :)

Now I can likely sell my desktop amiga sitting in front of me and transfer most of its information to this machine (has a 30GB hd, I don't think I'll be using it up anytime soon, this ain't Bloatware2000 like my work craptop, after all :)

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