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Long Filename Support + Large HDD Support
« on: October 05, 2007, 07:06:17 PM »
Having just installed a (60gig!) and cdrom drive with my a1200, I have found two annoying problems:

1. Filenames read from CDRom are being truncated up to 8 digits...
2. Only 8 gigs from the HDD are being 'seen', and with a maximum size of 4 gigs per partition

I appreciate any help :)

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Re: Long Filename Support + Large HDD Support
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2007, 07:34:10 PM »
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Filenames read from CDRom are being truncated up to 8 digits...


Install a file system which supports Joliet. For example AsimCDFS or CacheCDFS (IDEfix or OS3.5/3.9).


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Only 8 gigs from the HDD are being 'seen',


Enter the correct geometry manually when defining the new drive type.

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and with a maximum size of 4 gigs per partition


I doubt that. Each and every available partitioning program allows to create partitions as big as the entire drive. If you can use them is another story. Without the appropiate software patches you can only use partitions which entirely reside inside the first 4GB of the HDD. If you'd give some details about your hard- and software configuration one could tell you more.

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Re: Long Filename Support + Large HDD Support
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2007, 07:52:03 PM »
Hey thanks for your help... Quick question, is AsimCDFS available for free? I looked on aminet but cannot find it :(

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Re: Long Filename Support + Large HDD Support
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2007, 08:10:13 PM »

AsimCDFS is a commercial software product. AFAK it is no longer available (except second-hand).

If these CDs you are trying to read are self-made (i.e. CD-R), another solution could be to write a CD which every Amiga CDFS can read. For example you could configure your writing program to use ISO level 2 instead of level 1. This would give you 32 characters instead of 8, but still all in upper case. Or you could run an Amiga writing program inside WinUAE. For example MakeCD. With this method you could write real Amiga CDs. MakeCD also allows to override the ISO standard, so that mixed-case file names are used with ISO level 2. These CDs could be read by both, Windows and AmigaOS.

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Re: Long Filename Support + Large HDD Support
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2007, 08:29:30 PM »
"Enter the correct geometry manually when defining the new drive type."

How do I do that? The HDD is 60 gigs in size.

"Without the appropiate software patches you can only use partitions which entirely reside inside the first 4GB of the HDD. If you'd give some details about your hard- and software configuration one could tell you more."

Well I have:

A1200 with 60gb HDD
CDROM SCSI via Squirrel
Blizzard 030/50 with 16 Megs on Board
KS Roms version 3.0
Workbench 3.1

Thanks again for any help :)


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Re: Long Filename Support + Large HDD Support
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2007, 08:36:54 PM »
One of the best ways to resolve these problems it to use AmigaOS 3.9 and Kickstart 3.1 - this will easily resolve the large hard disk support problem by soft patching the ROM.  It will also give you CACHECDFS - which is one of the best CDFileSystems on the Amiga.

Alternatives are to use IDEFIX, SFS and HDInstTools but there are still glitches in any AmigaOS less than 3.5 where hard disks geometry not reported correctly in Workbench.  

If you are on a budget and upgrade to Kickstart 3.1, you can use the official scsi.device patch, NSDPatch and updated FFS that Amiga Technologies released for OS 3.1 users.  However Workbench geometry problems still reside.
 
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Re: Long Filename Support + Large HDD Support
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2007, 08:46:02 PM »
Hi Amigakit,

Thanks for the info, I will buy kickstart roms 3.1 then... Guess you will be getting another order from Malta soon :)
 

Offline Thomas

Re: Long Filename Support + Large HDD Support
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2007, 10:19:56 PM »
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"Enter the correct geometry manually when defining the new drive type."

How do I do that? The HDD is 60 gigs in size.


Heads, sectors and cylinders should be printed on the HDD's label. Enter them into the appropiate input fields. If the values are 16/63/16383, then find the formatted number of sectors instead. Divide it by 1008 to get the real number of cylinders. Should be something around 116000.

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If you are on a budget and upgrade to Kickstart 3.1, you can use the official scsi.device patch, NSDPatch and updated FFS that Amiga Technologies released for OS 3.1 users.


You don't need Kick 3.1 for this. The updated scsi.device and FFS work on Kick 3.0 as well, even on Kick 2.0.

And you don't need NSDPatch at all. It does not give you anything. No benefit, no functionality, no nothing.

The files we are talking about are available here: http://os.amigaworld.de/index.php?lang=en&page=37

But they are beta and nag with requesters about expired beta periods. You also need these files in order to make them be quiet and run on Kick 3.0:

http://aminet.net/package/util/sys/patchstrip
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/FFS43.19_patch
http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/LoadModule

If you understand German, you'll find a tutorial how to install them here: http://thomas-rapp.homepage.t-online.de/bighdd/index.html

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Thomas