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How to backup Jaz disk in OS3.9
« on: August 11, 2006, 10:05:30 PM »
Hi everyone,
I'm after some friendly suggestions about how I can get a backup of my system. I will describe my setup; (I'm not bragging if it seems like that I'm after some help  :-) )
I have two 1200s both with Blizzard accelerators but one (my main machine) has the SCSI addon. This boots from Iomega 2Gb Jaz and has no hard drive. The second machine I turn on after the main one is up and this has no hard drive either but boots from floppy and mounts the same Jaz drive as DH0: via Pronet parallel interface to my main machine. Don't ask me why I don't get a hard drive. I don't know why. So I have one Jaz disk with all my files on it that could potentially go diddly squat and I'd be up {bleep}e creek. I have a IBM thinkpad laptop and I have bought a PCMCIA Jaz adaptor for it and this can read the AMIGA Jaz disk through WinUAE (provided I connect up the drive) and I can copy the files to the Windows hard drive but I feel this is not the best solution. There must be a better way??? Maybe I need to buy another bit of hardware (not a hard drive for the Amiga) or get the Amiga to read Windows format disks (I have a second empty Jaz disk???

Opinions, suggestions welcome on this lonely friday night.
                                                             
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Re: How to backup Jaz disk in OS3.9
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2006, 10:25:06 PM »
Get a HD.  :lol:

A few gig IDE laptop HD would be dirt cheap, so why not?

Otherwise, get another Jaz disk and make a backup! That's what you're supposed to do with any media. It can read IBM format floppies, only you're restricted to 770k.
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Re: How to backup Jaz disk in OS3.9
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2006, 10:48:25 PM »
get another jaz disk or 2 or 3 or 4.....as many as you get cheap, then get a HD.... and back that up on your jaz disk..
thats a better work flow... you can still keep the parnet if you like..
 

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Re: How to backup Jaz disk in OS3.9
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2006, 11:13:06 PM »
Yeah but hard disks are noisy and I have one already in my laptop. Just posting this topic though I think I've seen the light and it is Samba. I've always put off trying it out but if I can mount the PC drive on my Amiga I can just copy files through the network via Cloanto DirDiff for the ones that have changed. It remains to be seen how fast it is compared to amiga Explorer. Wish me luck..thanks
                                                             
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Re: How to backup Jaz disk in OS3.9
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2006, 03:10:41 AM »
Jaz cartridges are expensive and prone to a lot of failure (like most of the things Iomega make)
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Re: How to backup Jaz disk in OS3.9
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2006, 05:17:59 AM »
I would back that thang up ASAP!  They fail a lot (Click of Death)  I would just get a 2.5" IDE HD and call it a day man.  They are cheaper than 1 jaz disk...
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Re: How to backup Jaz disk in OS3.9
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2006, 07:03:06 AM »
@TjLaser A ZIP disk is different than A Jazz Disk. A Zip disk is made from the same material of a floppy disk and a Jazz disk contains platters like a hard disk. I only heard about Click of death of Zip disk and not Jazz.

Ontopic:

Buy a notebook hard disk for you Amiga, there are very quiet. I used a Toshiba 80 GB (4200 rpm ,8 MB cache).
 

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Re: How to backup Jaz disk in OS3.9
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2006, 06:46:56 AM »
too loud.... o.k. I can sortta see that.  Good luck with samba I have gotten it to work somehow in the past. still get a hard drive, try it out, it nice, stillthe samba is cool, it is built into 3.9 I think?
 

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Re: How to backup Jaz disk in OS3.9
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2006, 09:39:02 AM »
Nope Jaz also has a problem like COD, do a google!
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Re: How to backup Jaz disk in OS3.9
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2006, 10:23:39 AM »
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samba..., it is built into 3.9 I think?

No, it's not.
 

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Re: How to backup Jaz disk in OS3.9
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2006, 03:10:49 PM »
Well after a coffee fuelled session a few nights ago I got Samba working with my Thinkpad and my 1200 (not very secure at the moment though). Now I will try to use Cloanto DirDiff to update a copy of the mig drive I have on the laptop. But I can't see the device name. I forget is it smbfs0: or smb_fs0: or something like that?

The main reason I prefer my Jaz to hard disk is being on the SCSI port it is so much faster than the damn slow IDE on the 1200 motherboard. I dread to think of it dying by COD though.
                                                             
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Re: How to backup Jaz disk in OS3.9
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2006, 04:12:42 PM »
Err.. Maybe you could use a SCSI HD?

And is a HD more noisy than a Jazz drive? I doubt that...
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Re: How to backup Jaz disk in OS3.9
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2006, 04:34:22 PM »
Yeah. But I don't want to tower up. I did try using a SCSI external casing with a server SCSI drive I got from work but this was incredibly loud as there was a fan in the casing and it was so bulky. It was also no faster than IDE.
                                                             
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