PPC970 Benchmarks in 32bit mode

[Hammer]

Yes it is relevant, without a clear POV no-one can see where you are arguing from,

Follow the thread.

I dont particularly care what magazines encourage,

IF that’s your intentions.  

the fact is that 5 years ago these magazines had much less linux related product included in them if ANY.

Some of those magazines also contained (and cover mounted) OS/2 Warp, QNX and X86 BeOS. There’s nothing new under the sun.   Refer back to what magazines encouraged.

The TCPA issue is also forcing a choice between windows and linux.

Microsoft's implementation of TCPA is the Palladium. This particular implementation is quite lame in Longhorn.

Operating system discussions (e.g. Linux vs Windows) is outside of this topic.

[toRus]

sTix wrote:
PPC ain't dead yet

PPC has never been dead unless you believe all this propaganda from the lame x86 sites. Internet is being heavily commercialised, making easier for lame companies to spread their FUD but you still have the option to search and filter the information and judge for yourself. The truth is a couple of clicks away.

[Hammer]

Have you looked at microsoft lisencing policies and costs?

Just hope you have the experience in dealing (selling) with Microsoft products to corporate clients and volume buyers. The cost you quoted for per unit basis at volume amount is wrong. The amount quoted is not the amount.

(This not the amount which I buy from wholesale/volume (e.g. best buy)). The quoted OEM prices refer to end-users price.

There is much business sense in moving away from those kinds of costs, especially for the home user.

You are forgetting the soft skills factor…

With TCPA M$ is forcing people to use thier products or become incompatible...even with earlier windows products.
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Such statement contradicts Microsoft's David Cutler (NT’s top banana) in regards to the importance of software investment protection.    

It is also an attempt to kill GPL as you cant afford to get certification. All this on the x86 platform.
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Careful with "It is also an attempt to kill GPL as you cant afford to get certification. All this on the x86 platform." statement.

Reference;
http://search.amd.com/amd_query.html?col=spec1&col=a4&col=a2&col=a3&col=a1&col=a5&charset=utf-8&ht=0&qp=url%3A%2Fus-en%2F+url%3A%2Fgb-uk%2F+url%3A%2Fepd%2F&qt=Linux+Future&qs=+%7C+language%3Aen&qc=&pw=100%25&ws=1&la=en&qm=0&st=1&nh=10&lk=1&rf=0&rq=0&si=0

Hector Ruiz has stated that their future is with Linux and Windows. Linux would be fine under AMD's processors.

Note that Intel/HP directly supports OpenVMS for IA-64.

Also refer to;
http://www.computerworld.co.nz/webhome.nsf/UNID/C6D47647C87E74CFCC256C040081D748!opendocument

TCPA is backed by industry heavyweights such as Intel, Compaq/HP, IBM and of course Microsoft. It and Palladium are both seen as business enabling technologies

Notice IBM.

For Palladium to work; both HW and SW must be aware with another. Note that the Longhorn beta works with the current x86 HW...

anyway, all of this is speculation until it all happens, maybe we should take about it again in 5-10 years.

Try again.

[Hammer]

the fact is that 5 years ago these magazines had much less linux related product included in them if ANY.This shows a clear move away from windows.

To illustrate the proportion of the world _desktop_ users (as of 2002);
Linux has 0.25%
MacOS has 4%
 
Source: Paul Robinson and Dan Corkery, Operating In Linux - 3rd Edition, Next Publishing, 2002.  

[IonDeluxe]

I am afraid I don't gree with any of those sources you have listed.
No-one can accurately state how much of a market share linux has as its freely distributeable.the increase in linux related content in magazines and other publications is a very strong indicator of the move away from MS windows.The same kind of indications are used in economy when they track job adds.
I dont like .NET, TCPA, and other MS strategies, I think it just gives too much power to MS over my freedom of choice, and I find it is anti competetive.
The performance of the IBM 970 is competetive(so long as costs are in line also) and can only be viewed as good news, especially for those that have not moved away from x86 and\or windows as they were concerned about perfomance.

It is also interesting to note that many large companies such as IBM have signed up on various anti - TCPA organizeations, as well as being part of the TCPA conglomeration.

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree