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Offline motrucker

Re: Just how vulnerable PC's have become in the internet!!
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 18, 2006, 06:00:41 PM »
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dammy wrote:
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I didn't blame PC's, I think...


It's not the PC, it's the lame ass OS your using.  :-D  

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You can't even blame the OS. It just not safe to go online without an intivirus prg running these days. There are a couple of excellent prgs for windoze, with AVG being my favorite - The free version is excellent, but the pro version is even better (and at $40 for a two year license isn't bad).
BUT - put the blame where it belongs - the hackers who write the viruses (virii ?)
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Re: Just how vulnerable PC's have become in the internet!!
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2006, 06:26:25 PM »
As MacOS isn't as popular as windows, you won't get viruses as easily, but they do exist, and there's no reason why someone shouldn't send out an email with a mac virus. Or an amiga virus for that matter.

I'm thinking of geting a Mac sometime to replace my intel pcs. (I already have two mac laptops).

Also, I don't use any security crap at all. Yes, I password protect my user account, and my wireless network is protected with the password 'hello' (there's a tip for those of you who go past my house).

I really don't like security software. It moans about not being updated every 5 minutes. It takes up loads of system resources meaning I can't do alot  else with the computer while it's running, or at least I can't when I'm using windows xp as that takes up loads of resources. It increased boot times. My amiga 1200 with a blizard 1230/50MHz with WB3.1 boots up in 6 second. Windows 2000 with security software takes ages.

Also, you may end up with dificulty connecting to other computers/sharing stuff from your own computer/using your computer as a web server/ p2p/whatever because it might block stuff.

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Re: Just how vulnerable PC's have become in the internet!!
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2006, 07:55:59 PM »
but why do everyone say you need antivirus for going online???
you need a firewall and maybe a good browser.. antivirus is of no use if you're without those two, IMHO.
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Re: Just how vulnerable PC's have become in the internet!!
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2006, 12:20:57 AM »
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but why do everyone say you need antivirus for going online???
you need a firewall and maybe a good browser.. antivirus is of no use if you're without those two, IMHO.


True for the most part, except when your kids get their hands on your machine!
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Re: Just how vulnerable PC's have become in the internet!!
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2006, 12:38:43 AM »
I'd also recommend Sysinternals Autoruns and Sysinternals Process explorer - helps to find out what is autostarting when your machine boots, and helps to remove the things you don't want.
Has found stuff for me that firewall + Network Associates has missed.

I don't use any Adaware stuff at all, never had a problem with pop-ups etc when using firefox.  IE sucks, glad to be rid of it.  Thankyou Mozilla :-)

Does anyone know of any court cases of viruses released by industry to attack pirate users of their software (I mean aside from Elbox :lol::lol:) ?
I'm really surprised someone such as Autodesk or Comsol hasn't done this - nothing against those two in particular, I just mean high value IP companies.  But I suppose releasing incomplete software then only supplying the service packs to registered users works just as well...
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Re: Just how vulnerable PC's have become in the internet!!
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2006, 02:11:09 AM »
@ jjans:

I argee that some Norten progs. are great, like Ghost....but Norten didn't develop Ghost, they just bought it....

I made the mistake of buying Norten Internet Security for like $40.00, it's just a big, bloated 'suite' that has the inability to find or remove any virii.....complete waste of money....

Whish I had known then that I could get Avast and ZoneAlarm for free....

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Re: Just how vulnerable PC's have become in the internet!!
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2006, 05:00:57 PM »
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SCA does not wipe anything or damage the disk when it activates. It just spreads, and displays the message every 15th reboot.

By replacing the bootblock of the disk it can destroy game loaders though. But everyone kept the original disks in safe place, write protected, right? :-)
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Don't misunderstand me. I didn't mean that the diskettes would crash and burn in a puff of smoke and a raging flame of fire. No sparks ever flew out of my disk drives. Thanks for the clarification. I do need to lean to express myself more better. :-)

However, if my memory serves me correctly, something did happen to material on my diskettes. I always thought this virus had something to do with these diskette problems.

Here's a quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCA_virus.

"SCA would not harm disks per-se, but would spread to any write-enabled floppies inserted. If they used custom bootblocks (such as games), they would be rendered unusable. SCA also checksums as an original filesystem (OFS) bootblock so would destroy newer filesystems if the user didn't know the proper use of the "install" command to remove SCA ("install df0: FFS FORCE" to recover a 'fast filesystem' floppy)." - Wikipedia

I think I experienced this a few times...Oh well. Dassa long tyme agew.

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